1970 Challenger HEMI • The Dodge Challenger Message Board

by **PPPFFF** » 19 Mar 2004 0:26

Some of the emblems are off the car right know. This is a real Hemi R/T with Fiberglass hood and spoilers. It looks the way it rolled out of the factory. Patrick

by **NZ440R/T** » 19 Mar 2004 3:29

Holy shit!!!!! Thats a crisp ride, your a lucky mug mate, I love it!

Sits so well, and those are the original tire sizes? It sits perfect.

by **dave-r** » 19 Mar 2004 7:56

I thought it was going to be in bad condition or something. I am sick with jealousy. What a fantastic find.

by **Tim** » 19 Mar 2004 8:52

That's a beautiful car

Congratulations. Marry me!

by **PPPFFF** » 19 Mar 2004 13:08

The car had 1 repaint around 1985. Its a fair number 2 car up close. Those are the correct size tires. It does look awesome in person. Patrick

by **insuranceguy** » 19 Mar 2004 16:12

Thanks for the spontaneous muscular reaction! :shock:

by **Christer** » 19 Mar 2004 17:56

Gorgeous car! :shock:

Have you got any pic´s of the engine bay? Please?

Q: Were all of the fibreglass hoods painted black from the factory (like the T/A hoods) or could you choose to have them body coloured?

by **PPPFFF** » 19 Mar 2004 19:16

I will soon post pictures of the engine compartment. It needs some work. The correct black matted valve covers come with the car. It has chrome ones on it now. I'm still researching the history of the car. Early 80's owner owned this one and many other hemi-powered cars. Including a 1968 Barracuda factory Hemi drag car.

As far as the hood is concerned. The build sheet(which is in mint condition) and the fender tag confirm it came with the N94 Fiberglass T/A hood. I believe it came in black like the T/A's. Patrick

by **marco** » 20 Mar 2004 4:58

nice car
Is it a automatic or standard trans?

by **PPPFFF** » 20 Mar 2004 13:03

Its an automatic. Patrick

by **Alaskan_TA** » 06 Apr 2004 3:02

Very cool. This is only the fourth 1970 non-T/A Challenger that I have heard of so far with the T/A hood. I would love to know the codes if possible so I can compare it to the others I have heard of just for curiousities sake.

Great find!

Barry

by **NZ440R/T** » 06 Apr 2004 3:45

Tim if you marry him you'll need a son! :lol:

I love that car, that would be a blast to drive!! I love my Autos and proud of it, what a beast mate!

by **PPPFFF** » 06 Apr 2004 15:00

This is most everything on the Build Sheet And Fender Tag. Pretty interesting !!!

Barry please give me your thoughts as compared to the other 4.

E74 - 426-2-4 hemi
D32 - Heavy Duty Torque Flite 727
A32 - 4.10 Dana Performance Rear
A45 - Spoiler Package Front and Rear
A62 - Rally Instrument Package
B51 - Power Assist Brakes
C16 - Console W/Buckets
C55 - Bucket Seats
F96 - Oil pressure /Temp Gauge
J45 - Hood Pins
J81 - Rear Spolier Wing Type
N41 - Dual Exhaust
N42 - Chrome Dual Exhaust Tips
N65 - 7 Blade Fan
N85 - Tach
N94 - Fresh Air Hood Fiberglass
V68 - Delete Stripes
M21 - RF Drip rail Moldings
B51 - Power Assist Brakes
S31 - Front Sway Bar
S15 - Hemi XHD Susp/W/Front SW
S25 - HD/Firm Ride Shk. Absb
Y05 - Built to US Specs
Y14 - Built Sold Car
612 - Built on or around June 12th
- No Radio Ordered on the car
FE5 - Red Exterior
H6X9 - Black Vinyl Seats

Hope this hepls!! Patrick :lol:

by **Alaskan_TA** » 07 Apr 2004 4:30

Hi Patrick,
Here are the complete fender tag codes for the other non-T/A N94 cars that I have heard of. I do not have rubbings or pictures of these tags, but I do have copies of the broadcast sheets for two of them. The tag info as it appears below is as reported to me, so unless I make a typo, any errors are not mine. :wink:

? marks appear where the info is hard to read.

Y05 26 EN1
+ N41 N42 N85 N94 V6? +
TX9 A33 A62 C55 J45 M21
TX9 H6X9 000 512 076275
E74 D21 JS23 R0B 336419

EN1
+ N94 V6X R11 26 Y05 +
J45 J81 M21 N41 N42 N85
V1F A62 B51 c16 C55 G3?
FF4 H6X9 000 702 07682?
E63 D32 JS23 N0B 405351

EN1
+ N94 R22 V98 Y05 26 +
G3? J45 J81 M21 N41 N42
V1W A01 A66 C16 C55 C62
EB5 H6XW 000 702 168885
E55 D32 JH23 H0B 405538

T/Ake care,
Barry

by **PPPFFF** » 08 Apr 2004 12:45

What is interesting about all 4 of these cars is the expected build dates. All very late in the year. Also after the production of the T/A's. I was told the Fiberglass hood was available for all Challengers. However Chrysler did a lousy job marketing them in their sales literature so no one ordered it. It didn't get catch on until some people saw them on the T/A's. Then a handful were ordered on non-T/A's. I don't believe it was made specifically for the T/A's, but was part of the T/A package. This is what my research tells me. Any thoughts? Patrick

by **Alaskan_TA** » 09 Apr 2004 3:13

Hi Patrick,
The hood was made specifically for the Challengers racing in the Trans Am ciruit, so it had to be on the street version of the T/A to homoglate it for the race cars. It had to be a regular production part for them to use it on the race cars, so it was made specifically with that use in mind.

It did prove to be very popular with drag racers as well.

T/Ake care,
Barry

by **PPPFFF** » 09 Apr 2004 12:18

That makes sense Barry. Thanks for explaining that! Patrick :lol:

by **Christer** » 12 Apr 2004 15:29

Alaskan_TA wrote:Here are the complete fender tag codes for the other non-T/A N94 cars that I have heard of.

Were the hoods body coloured or black, Barry?

(Are they supposed to be body coloured or not..?)

by **PPPFFF** » 13 Apr 2004 13:53

I know this question was asked of Barry, but I would like to answer it if I may. My understanding is if the car was ordered with the N94 option, it came from the factory with the Black Fiberglass T/A hood. They were not painted anything other then black. My Hemi is fitted with the oval Hemi air-cleaner with rubber seal like whats on the six-pack T/A cars.

I know if I'm incorrect, Barry will post the correct answer. He knows alot more then I about these hoods. Patrick :lol:

by **dave-r** » 13 Apr 2004 16:12

I am sure you are correct Patrick.

by **Christer** » 16 Apr 2004 10:29

I am waiting for a quote from you Barry, so we can end this discusson. Please? :roll:

by **Alaskan_TA** » 17 Apr 2004 2:39

I agree, all T/A hoods were painted black by the factory, (organisol) weather they were installed on T/As or other Challenger models. I have not heard of any that were body color per se, but they did use the hoods on black cars, but the hood is not glossy like TX9 black.

T/Ake care,
Barry

by **Christer** » 17 Apr 2004 9:01

ThAnks!

by **PPPFFF** » 18 Apr 2004 0:02

I wanted to share some information. I just spoke to the original owner who ordered the car back in 1970. He worked for Vissing Dodge in Jeffersonville Indiana and ordered the car for drag racing. He raced the car at numerous tracks in Indiana and Kentucky. I also so spoke to Mr. Vissing @ Vissing Dodge and he remembers the car. Only Hemi Challenger he sold in 1970. The original owner said the T/A hood really helped lighten the front end, sucked in alot of air and help with quarter mile performance. He and I will hopefully speak again soon. Thanks for reading.
Patrick

by **dave-r** » 18 Apr 2004 10:45

Quite a success story this.

It is amazing to me that this sort of thing can still happen these days. There must still be other great cars like this out there. I wish I could find one!

by **PPPFFF** » 18 Apr 2004 11:56

I agree Dave, their must be more!! Talk to everyone about these old cars. Somebody knows of a car that's been overlooked for years. I'm still looking. Patrick :lol:

by **Christer** » 18 Apr 2004 16:59

PPPFFF wrote:Thanks for reading.
Patrick

????? Thanks for posting is more correct, isn´t it? :wink:

I know of a Hemi Challenger here in Sweden that has been stored for the last 20 years or something. I wish I get the opportunity to see it in real life one day. The owner seems to be very aware of its value (a collector)so the chances to buy it cheap are very small, I guess. :cry:

by **PPPFFF** » 18 Apr 2004 21:27

I'm Sure theirs more Christer. Some maybe closer then we think! Happy Hunting. Patrick

by **Alaskan_TA** » 19 Apr 2004 2:06

Hey Patrick,
I know of a T/A that sold new at that dealership as well. It sold rather late, 8-10-70, so it was probably on the lot when your car came in. The next time you talk to Mr. Vissing, can you ask him if he has any vintage photos of the dealership? I would love to see them if he does.

T/Ake care,
Barry

by **PPPFFF** » 19 Apr 2004 13:08

I sure will Barry!! :lol:

. I also remember him telling me that the Hemi-car was used a little as a demo before it went to the track. Can you imagine that!! A hemi demo car. Patrick