SE Emblem Difference between the 71 Charger SE Emblem?

Postby cdecristo » 21 Apr 2004 23:11

What is the diffference between the two?
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Postby dave-r » 22 Apr 2004 19:59

I think I know why you are asking this.

Is it because Year One list a badge for the 71 Charger but not for the 70 Challenger?

I have had a look at the picture of the Charger emblem on the Year One site and compared it to a very poor b&w photo I have in an old magazine (yeah I remembered where I had seen it! :shock: ).

The result is I cannot see a difference at all. It would make sense for Dodge to use the same badge.

Of course we cannot always rely on Dodge to do the sensable thing can we! :lol:

But unless someone out there knows different I think they are the same. (Fingers crossed)
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Postby dave-r » 23 Apr 2004 9:29

Here is what Year One call a 1971 Charger SE badge.

I know there are some Challenger SE owners here on the message board. Can you guys compare how yours looks to this?

Thanks.

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Postby Christer » 29 Apr 2004 5:51

dave-r wrote:I think I know why you are asking this. Is it because Year One list a badge for the 71 Charger but not for the 70 Challenger?

But unless someone out there knows different I think they are the same. (Fingers crossed)


Looks like they are the same after all (unless there is a misprint in Paul Herds "Interchange" book). He claims that the 70 Challenger SE and the 71 Charger SE use the same part number: 3446801 (SE medallion on roof sail panels). Strange that Year One has missed this fact.
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Postby dave-r » 21 May 2004 8:54

This if from a Challenger RT/SE for sale on ebay.

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Postby Christer » 10 Mar 2005 18:08

From an ebay ad:

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Up for bid is a (3) piece lot of 1970 Dodge Challenger Special Edition emblems. There are 2 of the original style with plastic red, white and blue inserts and 1 with painted red, white and blue reliefs.
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Postby Christer » 10 Mar 2005 18:11

From another ebay ad:

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New old stock, Dodge special edition emblem usually found on the C pillar of 1970 and 1971 Challenger and Charger.
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Postby Christer » 10 Mar 2005 18:13

....and another ebay ad:

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Hi. This is a N.O.S SE emblem. I am unsure of the model car it will fit. The part # on the back is 42989. 3613823.
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Postby Christer » 10 Mar 2005 18:21

....and another ad:

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Brand new pair of SE emblems from year one. Excellent reproductions. Paid $32.00 each.
Part # VC 173 Emblem that goes on the rear sail panel.
Fits: 70, 71 Challenger, 71-72 Charger SE Emblems according to the seller.
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Postby Christer » 10 Mar 2005 18:34

Maybe we together can solve this question once and for all thanks to the four posts above!?
I really hope so, because I just can´t get this question out of my head!!!!! :s006: :hmmm: :p: :disbelief: :rage:

Help! Help! Help! :D
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Postby Bilko » 10 Mar 2005 20:50

I can see a difference, a great big screw through the centre!
Here's mine taken 5 minutes ago.

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Postby rockanimal » 10 Mar 2005 22:24

I´m pretty sure that they used the same, I have looked everywhere for a couple and have found reproductions for both Challenger & Charger on Jacks Autoparts: they look the same. Year One only have, as Dave said, for Charger and yes, that´s strange! But most importantly I have looked at old pictures and compared and I don´t see a difference at all! Some very reliable Mopar friends of mine don´t see a difference either BUT nobody are 100% sure! The only thing I´m sure of is that reproductions are painted red, white and blue and that I have a couple of originals on the way home right now, :D ! If anyone here does happen to have a Charger SE too with an original emblem, post a picture plus mesurements and I´ll do the same when I get my emblems.
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Postby dave-r » 11 Mar 2005 11:15

Bilko wrote:I can see a difference, a great big screw through the centre!
Here's mine taken 5 minutes ago.


That is a good example of the reproduction piece Bilko. Nice clear photo too! :D
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Postby Christer » 11 Mar 2005 11:26

Bilko wrote:I can see a difference, a great big screw through the centre!


Thanks for the input guys! Can we agree upon that:

1) Both emblems look very similar IF you don´t look VERY closely.
2) One has got a hole through the centre, the other miss this hole.
3) The red/white/blue part is either made of plastic OR is simply painted!

This is what I think (´70 Challengers only):
NOS: If you prefer NOS, you shall look for an emblem WITH a hole in the middle.
The red/white/blue part is made of plastic on the NOS emblems.

REPRO: If you prefer repro, you shall look for an emblem WITHOUT a hole in the middle.
The red/white/blue part is painted.


....but, as stated earlier, both emblems look very similar IF you don´t look VERY closely.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, please! :nod:
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Postby dave-r » 11 Mar 2005 11:45

I think you have that right Christer. Thanks. :wink:
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Postby rockanimal » 19 Mar 2005 10:17

I don´t think it´s as easy as tell the difference with the hole in the middle! The ones I just bought is original parts (a little worn as you can see, for example a couple of the the plastic parts are missing), and they don´t have the hole in the middle. Partnumber 42989 and then 3444937. So there´s a difference at least in the numbers. I´m not sure if they come from a Challenger or a Charger though...

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Postby Bilko » 19 Mar 2005 19:05

I agree with you Robert. The 1970 factory Challenger manual shows the SE emblem without the centre screw.
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Postby rockanimal » 20 Mar 2005 21:13

Just found out that my SE-emblems (pictured above, without a hole) are from a Challenger.

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