[Alan (Sean)]

I have a T/A Challenger and I would like to know the placement of the Challenger grille emblem and also the Pen Star emblem which goes on the right front fender. You all have been a great help in getting this thing back together and I sure hope somebody can help with this.There is only one way to put these fine Mopars together and that is the right way.

[Dave-R (Roppa440)]

Well that is not exactly true.

You see. The guys on the assembly line were in a bit of a hurry and rather sloppy in their working practices. So the placement of parts like the stick-on badges and the grille emblem varied a little from guy to guy and shift to shift. As long as they were on straight and in the right area they passed inspection.

However I think the little pentstar emblem fits into a hole? So the placement of that would be exact. Can anyone confirm this?

I will scan a couple of images for you when I have time but there are plenty of images in books and on the 'net for you to use as reference.

[Dave-R (Roppa440)]

Actually you could try asking Steve-R (Rizrtse) as he was very careful about the placement of the badges on his car. He does not have a T/A but he can tell you the exact placement for the fender badge. I do not have my car at the moment. It is in Scotland with Linda so I can't measure it.

I think as far as the grille emblem goes it should be centred verticaly and the last letter (the 'r') should be about 5 of the square holes from the edge?

But I think you will find there was some variation in real life.

[Richard Ward (Richard)]

The Penstar clips into one central hole and is prevented from turning by another slightly smaller hole. I measured mine and the centre is 2" above the lower character line and 6 7/8" forward of the fender rear edge.

On my grille the final r of challenger is 10 holes in from the left and centred (centered?) top to bottom. The R/T script fits in the gap between script and grille edge with the R being level or on the same line as it were as the script.

Of course this may not be original as this car has been rebuilt so I guess you need some other measurements to confirm these.

[Alan (Sean)]

Thank you all again for your input.You all are a great bunch of people. I will wait patiently for any pics and further info as far as the placement of these particular items. You see my T/A had been painted before and the penstar emblem was glued back on and obviously the hole for the emblem was covered therefore I have nothing to go by because of that. If anybody can even give a website that can also give me an illustration that would be great. I am getting a bit anxious because this project is nearing the end. I don't want to get careless now especially this far into it.Even though summer is almost gone the T/A will be done and then I can post some pics here.

[Dave-R (Roppa440)]

I found a few interesting pictures last night but didn't have time to scan them. They all show the front grille badge in different places. In one shot (taken from a Dodge advertisement) you can see that the Challenger R/T script is not even close to straight!

I will try to scan them tonight.

[Alan (Sean)]

Thanks Dave

[David Robson (Admin)]

Ok here we go.

This first one is a brand spanking new 1970 R/T being given to Bobby Isacc as part of his prize for winning the Texas 500. See how crooked the badge is?



Now this is factory photo of a R/T. OK it is a pre-production photo taken in the summer of '69 but I have seen the odd Challenger with a badge this low on more than one occasion.



This next one is a factory photo from 1969.



Lets move on to the T/A. I have 3 photos here for you. The first one was taken in 1970. The other two could be restorations but I don't know.





I hope this helps??

[Dave-R (Roppa440)]

To sum this up I think the 'correct' distance of the Challenger script from the right edge of the grille as you look at it is 10 or 11 holes. The examples I have found are between 5 and 12 holes. The factory did not seem to worry about the exact placement or even if the badges were straight in their own publicity shots so I would not worry about it either.

[Steve R (Rizrtse)]

As Dave states their probably is no "code" location other than the holes predrilled for the pentastar emblem. I suggest looking inside your fender for the holes and punching them out. The challenger script is best approximated by looking at a few TAs from photos or in person and placing them there. I went crazy trying to find the exact location for the challenger/RT script that went on the trunk, only to eyeball it in the end! Too many cars had them in different (1/2" either way) locations. I wouldn't do this with the fender emblems since they were supposed to be mounted in predrilled holes, so I made sure the dummies at the shop left them open. Good Luck, T/As are hard to find regardless.

[Luke (Luke)]

After reading this I went and looked at my badge and its on the oppisit side , however there are some markes in the alloy where it was placed from the fatory.

[Alan (Sean)]

It sure helps alot. thanx all again.