Apparently-To: john.smith@gravis.com GUS Musician's Digest Thu, 4 Nov 93 3:29 MST Volume 2: Issue 4 Today's Topics: Banks FAQ inclusions? MODEDIT playing with SBOS New Pianos Piano20 piano20/Power Chords > known incompat. PIANO v2.0 BUGS - ANSWERS PIANO v2.1 Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 23:59:54 -0500 (EST) From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Banks Something may complicate the bank assignments: there are not only 128 banks, but 1024 banks (or so i'm told). But i'm not 100% sure and if it's the case i dont see how you can have that many banks selected thru controller 0 since it is a midi controller and the value is probably 1 byte with parity which means 128 values... In any case this should be cleared soon, when the drivers come out. For now, except for bank 8 people seem to say "assignment as the patches come out"... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 93 0:21:22 MST From: Steve "Bongos" Larson Subject: FAQ inclusions? Hi GUSicians. I posted this to the other digest, but it's probably more relevant to the _high_fidelity_ group :). Many of you who recently received texts on ground-loop-isolators, dram, or volume-control requested I put these things in the FAQ. I have not read the FAQ since February, nor do I know who maintains it. If some kind in-the-know would enlighten me, I will get right on it. It would be nice to receive some feedback on the texts, as I would like all information to be as consise, accurate and relevant as possible before FAQ consideration. In the meantime, I will ftp the latest FAQ from epas (at 2400baud!!!) to do some catching up. For newcomers, I currently have a manual volume control text which shows you how to use your old speakers with the GUS *and* not blow your head off, *:-) a ground-loop-isolator text which shows you how to realize the GUS's awesome signal-to-noise ratio on your stereo, and a newer text on drams upgrade for your GUS (what, where, why, how, how much). At Phat Tran's suggestion, I will include info on power consumption considerations of drams; I should have a revised dram text by Sunday (sorry for the delay). BTW, my apologies to those who received several or wrong texts! I'll blame the local mailserv... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Steve Larson, Dept. of Computer Engineering, Univ. of Alberta larson@bode.ee.ualberta.ca or larson@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 11:37:47 +1030 (CST) From: Gavin Subject: Re: MODEDIT playing with SBOS > but modules play through the DAC, and the difference between SB and GUS is not >so great here. So I would have thought. But why does Modedit sound so bad when playing mod/samples? You have to run SBOS to get it to play but I don't know why you get such poor D-A quality, is it to do with the quality of mixing modedit does? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 21:49:48 -0500 (EST) From: Phat H Tran Subject: New Pianos I found the envelopes in piano2.pat still a little too "dry", and I also didn't like the way notes are resurrected at note off, so I edited the envelopes a little to give the piano a little more warmth, and to remove the note resurrection. I've uploaded to Epas piano2a.pat and piano2b.pat. The b version has shorter sustain and decay for occasions where the ample "reverb" effect of piano2a may muddle up the music. Tell me what you think. As a side note, the samples in piano*.pat seem to be very hard key hits. The way they sound, I would think that they are the loud layer of a velocity-switching patch. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 00:11:04 +1100 From: adriano ennio raiola Subject: Piano20 I use piano20 with winjammer and for all intents and purposes it works beautifully, except, i check and instrument, then record it with winjammer, play it back, it comes out cool, then the next time i try to record i no longer hear anything, i have to check and uncheck the local echo in piano to re-hear the sounds, umm anyone know of a setup to fix this? otherwise, cool program! adrian ------------------------------ Date: 03 Nov 93 08:31:15 EST From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@CompuServe.COM> Subject: piano20/Power Chords > known incompat. Those who are trying to get Piano20 to work with Power Chords - don't spend any time on it just yet... I've been in contact with the author and have determined an incompatibility between the Power Chords code and the piano program. However, we will be able to resolve the trouble easily, although it is not yet decided who will make changes. Anyway, there will either be a Power Chords fix in the future, or a new version of the piano program very shortly to allow it to work with Power Chords. Great program, Gregor! Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 13:46:17 +0100 From: bojan.rijavec@uni-lj.si Subject: PIANO v2.0 BUGS - ANSWERS > The problem using Session is that both Piano and Session try to use the > Midi Mapper for output. They can't both use the Midi Mapper, so that > one's definitely out. Not really. True, they can't both use the Midi Mapper, but the Piano doesn't really need the Midi Mapper when used with other sequencing programs. Although it can't send MIDI messages directly to Midi Mapper, they are still sent to the Piano Driver. The driver then transmits them to the Session, and the Session forwards them to the Midi Mapper. The only thing is that the Piano won't be able to do patch caching, that means you will have to select an instrument in the Session BEFORE you push the record button. One more thing: Start the Session Manager before the Piano, just to make sure the Session gets the Midi Mapper first. > ...And hopefully he will re-compile it soon to fix the naming bug and get > it to work with Cakewalk. I've fixed the bug and the Piano works perfectly fine with Cakewalk, but is still having some problems with the Power Chords, I'll release the new version as soon as I fix this. Gregor Brecko ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 23:24:18 +0100 From: bojan.rijavec@uni-lj.si Subject: PIANO v2.1 Ok, the last bug has been fixed; Piano and Power Chords now understend each other. (Thanks Eric) Since there are no more reasons for delaying the release of Piano 2.1 any further, I am happy to say that ___________________________ Piano 2.1 is waiting for you on archive.epas.utoronto.ca in file PIANO21.ZIP ___________________________ Guaranteed to work with with WinJammer, Session Manager, Power Chords, Cakewalk and many others Have lots of fun, Gregor Brecko ------------------------------ End of GUS Musician's Digest V2 #4 ********************************** To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca /pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu /systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu /pub/packages/gravis theoris.rz.uni-konstanz.de /pub/sound/gus FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (general use, programmers, etc.).