Ultrasound Daily Digest Tue Aug 10 00:07 Volume 5: Issue 9 Today's Topics: about arj file beginner Demos with no sound/how many pholyphonic? GUS and ATI VGAStereo FX problems GUS prices Mega-Em 1.00B013 on EPAS MIDI files (Roberto Sierra's) MIDI Mapper and Patch Loading midi system exclusive common sample dump format wanted Miscellaneous rantings Music Odds & Ends New Song composed by ME (2 msgs) Note offs.. OS/2 Drivers - What's the Point? Roberto Sierra's MIDI Greatest Hits third try at chord patch info... Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #8 (2 msgs) unsubscribe Update on patches Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 18:19:11 +0900 From: Yasuhiko Inoue Subject: about arj file Message-ID: <9308090919.AA22301@chihaya.sm.sony.co.jp> I get GUS in these day's and I enjoying it. Iget some archive file from ftp site, but there is many "*.ARJ" file. Could some-one tell me, how to melt these file or play directly. or show me where the tools are. I'm novice about PC-DOS not only UltraSound system. Thank you. > - Direct line specifically > to the owners of the list. Please send all problems you are > having with the list to this address. > Enjoy! -- Yasuhiko Inoue @ SuperMicro Div. Sony Corp. (Japan) E-mail: yasu-i@sm.sony.co.jp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ALAN ROBB <"GVHS::AROBB"@LOKI.GVHS.GOV.BC.CA> Subject: beginner Message-ID: <930809103417.22812b99@LOKI.GVHS.GOV.BC.CA> Is there a file which describes how an amateur can get started on doing recording etc. For example, if you are not using Windows, what is the max. amount of time you can record using the gravis supplied softward. It seems to be a matter of seconds rather than minutes. Secondly, is there a basic keyboard which, by using the midi connector, would allow some recording, if necessary using windows. Any suggestions for beginners would be appreciated. Anyone who has any info could send to me at ua844@freenet.victoria.bc.ca and I would be most appreciative. Thank you ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 12:06:15 -0400 From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" Subject: Re: Demos with no sound/how many pholyphonic? Message-ID: <9308091606.AA08440@magick.tay2.dec.com> > I recently downloaded two demo's, Virtual2.zip spiral.zip.. > they both claim to have gus sound, but neither of them brings sound through > my speakers. Is somebody out there having the same problems??? Well, for one, you left off the info in your GUS. Virtual2.zip was still buggy and neither it nor spiral.zip nor debute produced any sound for me either. Get VIRTUAL4.ZIP off EPAS... Since my GUS isn't at the standard values (it conflicts with my SB and my Adaptec), I'd like to take this opportunity to ask that demo programmers realise that NOT EVERYONE'S GUS IS AT THE STANDARD VALUES!! Use the ULTRASND environment variable to get the info. After all, that's WHY its there... Thanks, DDA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 16:18:37 -0400 From: Steve Seixeiro Subject: GUS and ATI VGAStereo FX problems Message-ID: <93Aug9.161839edt.43229-2@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Hi, I have a GUS as well as an ATI VGAStereo FX card. Because my card is (the ATI) a sound card as well as my video card, I can't take it out of my system (as Gravis recommends having no SoundBlaster or compatible cards in the system when the GUS is put in). However, I got around that by setting up the IRQ settings properly as well as the DMA channels used by the GUS for the soundblaster settings. This works well for games that are not GUS compatible yet (and sound pretty horrible with SBOS and don't work with the ail drivers - ie Xwing, Microprose Formula 1 Grand Prix). I was happy enough when I got to keep both cards in the system and have these games work (Xwing by setting BLASTER=whatever IRQ etc necessary), but when I tried to play WOLFENSTEIN 3-D it wouldn't recognize the ATI card at all. I tried using sbos as a last resort but that sounded horrible and crashed many, many times. So, I figured that it might have something to do with having my ATI set at address 240 hex and GUS at 220 hex. I recall hearing that some games were hard coded to look for the SoundBlaster at 220 (I'm not sure if Wolf3D is or not though). Finally, here's the problem : I decided to switch my ATI to address 220 and my GUS to address 240. However, whenever I change the setting of the GUS to anything but address 220, it never seems to initialize. Has anyone out there seen something similar, or been able to set their GUS to anything other than address 220 and have the GUS work? Thanx for any help. Steve -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Steve Seixeiro 3A Computer Science University of Waterloo sseixeir@descartes.uwaterloo.ca Favourite Lt. Worf quotes: "Sir, I protest, I am NOT a merry man" "I have learned that if I had been allowed to shoot things when I wanted to shoot them, we would have significantly fewer problems" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ ___....-----'---`-----....___ ========================================= ___`---..._______...---'___ (___) _|_|_|_ (___) \\____.-'_.---._`-.____// ~~~~`.__`---'__.'~~~~ `~~~' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 08:55 CDT From: kimes@iwcs.att.com Subject: GUS prices Message-ID: <9308091415.AA13424@orca.es.com> Just a note to let all you U.S. readers about the latest price for the GUS listed in the Best Buy flyer. It is $126US. So if you have been holding off because of price you might want to run on down and pick one up. That may not be the lowest price that has been quoted, but it is very good and Best Buy stores are in most parts of the U.S. Kit Kimes; AT&T/NCR; Naperville,IL; ...att!iwcs!kimes (kimes@iwcs.att.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 10:36:22 +0800 (WST) From: Jayeson Lee-Steere Subject: Mega-Em 1.00B013 on EPAS Message-ID: <199308100236.KAA01126@tartarus> Yes I got a bit carried away with the anti-debugger routines and managed to alienate most, if not all, 386's (and no, I don't have anything personal against 386's ). If you were wondering why 1.00B012 was not on EPAS, I removed it because of this. Anyway I've removed the offending code, so lets try again... Jayeson Lee-Steere leesteer@tartarus.uwa.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 11:32:12 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: MIDI files (Roberto Sierra's) Message-ID: <00970C31.4A37A8A1.19066@lsl.co.uk> In yesterdays's Digest, mike@batpad.org wrote about problems playing MIDI files by Roberto Sierra. Maybe someone out there knows what setup these files need, otherwise... As you say, fiddling with default.cfg, or setting up MIDI mapper should be the way to get the original files to play correctly. Don't know why the files won't play *at all* with Media player - something about the MIDI file format I should think. Perhaps loading and saving from a sequencer would re-format them. Regards changing the actual MIDI file to native GUS, you need a sequencer with some global editing facilities like 'change everything on this channel to that channel'. Some terminology - *tracks* are a feature of MIDI sequencers and MIDI file format. They divide up the music into convenient pieces but do not affect how is plays. Often one track will use a single channel and a single instrument, but it need not. *channels* - MIDI has 16 of them. Each MIDI message includes the channel it is intended for. Once an instrument is selected for a channel (program change message) it persists for all notes on that channel until changed. One channel is reserved for percussion - 10 on the GUS, but sometimes 16 for other things. On the percussion channel, what would normally be the pitch of the note selects the instrument instead, since the instruments do not have a pitch. *patch* or *program* - an instrument sound, numbered 0-127 (or sometimes 1-128). Melodic ones selected by MIDI program change message, and percussive ones by the pitch of the note (as above). The problems to be addressed are (with MIDI mapper comments): If percussion is not on channel 10, then change it so that it is. Swap it with whatever was on 10 before (in MIDI mapper, this would be done in the main 'setup' editing window). If percussion is now playing the wrong instruments, then edit the 'pitch' of all notes on the percussion channel to get the right ones (in MIDI mapper, this would be done be setting up a 'keymap'). If melodic instruments are playing the wrong instruments, then edit all 'program change' commands to select the intended program (patch) (in MIDI mspper, this would be done by setting up a 'patch map'). So altogether a non-trivial task if you were starting from first principles. Maybe one of the setups already present in the midimap.cfg does something appropriate - try looking what other setups there are in there. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 09:50:10 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 09-Aug-1993 0949" Subject: MIDI Mapper and Patch Loading Message-ID: <9308091350.AA05949@us2rmc.bb.dec.com> The thread about MIDI Mapper not doing patch loading reminded me of something that I thought of several months ago, but never pursued. Does anyone know what MIDI Mapper is? What I mean is, is it written as a driver, a normal application, or is it something with intimate knowledge of undocumented interfaces, i.e. part of the Windows kernel? The reason I ask is that I think a very good thing to have would be a version of the MIDI mapper or a similar thing which WOULD do patch loading for patches that pass through it. The patch manager is nice, but not very helpful when you have no clue what patches are being used by an application which does not use MIDI files. If no one can convince AGravis to make the driver auto-load patches, at least it would be nice to have a hunk of software to plunk down between an application and the drivers to do the same. Anyone have a clue as to how difficult this might be? Burns ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 14:15:27 BST From: James Andrews Subject: midi system exclusive common sample dump format wanted Message-ID: <23852.9308091315@euclid.vortex1.exeter.ac.uk> Tried asking about this in comp.music, got no response, so thought I'd try on here: I would like to see the midi sample dump message format, so I can write some thing that can get samples from samplers and put them on a pc. Yes, I know the books in the FAQ have stuff like this in them, but they are US titles and would probably take ages to order and be expensive & I already have a couple of books on midi that mention most other things. Also are there any sites that hold *files* of samples in this midi sample dump format? Thanks, -- james@maths.ex.ac.uk -- James Andrews It was the manager: 'Up the stairs, Mister.' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 07:17:06 PDT From: deraud@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (Robert Lee DeRaud) Subject: Miscellaneous rantings Message-ID: <9308091417.AA12951@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com> >From: jericho!gord (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center) >Subject: Re: grand piano >While I'm sure that a (new technology) $6000.00 synth is going to smoke >the gus, the gus is pretty amazing at under $200.00. As well, I would >hope that a sample playback keyboard that costs that much would have as >many sampled notes as there are keys on the keyboard, not just 4 or 5 >like a little olde gus card... It's even worse than that: there are multiple samples along the velocity (amplitude) axis as well. Real pianos change timbre significantly as the keys are hit harder: just changing the volume doesn't cut it. >From: john.smith@gravis.com >Subject: GRAVIS AND ASSEMBLY ' 1/2 [snip, snip] >GUS Programming >=============== [snip, snip] >They would like to see more example source code for various UltraSound >sound engines. We currently only have two, GUS MOD V2.11 source code and >GUS Play. Sometimes all it takes to fix a programming problem is to >see how someone else approached the problem. I'll be trying to hunt down >more programming examples from other sources and post them. Where were these? I think I misplaced/never saw them... >From: jechrist@xyroc (Jeff Christensen) >Subject: Re: MIDI connector box >Anyone know how to turn up the volume using Recording Session when playing >from the keyboard to the GUS? If you're using a non-velocity-sensitive keyboard (like the POS Casio I've got...:-( ), it probably transmits all keys with a velocity value of 64. Considering the non-linear GUS volume control, it means I have to turn the amp up to about *12* just to hear it. What I've been doing is using the internal voices of the Casio for monitoring while recording and then twiddling the velocity numbers for the recorded track after the fact. I don't know if any of the more upscale sequencers (WinCake etc) can do this on the fly or not. >From: Brennan Stephens >Subject: Oh ye gurus hear my plea... >patches sound pretty good so I don't really need anything fancy. Does >anyone know of a basic (meaning inexpensive) keyboard with a midi >interface that doesn't come with a lot of samples and mixing tools that I >don't need? Basically, just a keyboard? What you're talking about is a MIDI keyboard controller. Unfortunately, all the ones I've seen are intended for pro usage and are NOT cheap. Best bet alternative is one of the Yamaha or Casio keyboards intended for home (toy? :-)) use: just be sure it has MIDI out and velocity- sensitive keyboard. Check you friend and neighbors with kids: they may have given one to their kids for Xmas and they've gottet tired of it by now. (Do NOT get a used CZ-101 or CZ-3000: the older ones do not have velocity-sensitive keyboards!) >From: Brian Go >Subject: OS/2 and my GUS. 2 weeks later..... [OS/2 sex-therapy stuff deleted :-) ] >Brian Go bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca 2nd Year Chem Stud.... >If he's chubby, black and carries a Sax. >Chances are, he is amazing! > <14eme Festival International de Jazz de Montreal> If he's chubby, white and carries a Sax, he MIGHT be the president... >From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" >Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #4 >I think that Eye & I also produced patch sets for some sample synths, so >this might be why the patches sound familiar. I was kinda impressed that >Gravis/Forte would get their patches from these folks... (I asked this question (in a somewhat roundabout way) in the SDK digest and got totally ignored, so I'll try again here...) Do any of the GUS gurus or patch experts know how to convert sample files from pro samplers (EMU, Roland, whatever) to GUS format? I know there are some limitations/incompatabilities but it has to be a better way to go than using home-brew 8-bit samples. The idea here is to be able to use the ENORMOUS patch/sample libraries available (albeit expensive) for the pro gear. From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #5 >From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@CompuServe.COM> >Subject: Changing Chord Rhythm Patch in PowCho [more-or-less null message deleted] Let's chip in and buy Eric a decent mail program. The stuff he has to say is way too important to lose in the bit bucket! >From: dna@netcom.com (David Altekruse) >Subject: Improve Your Gus Patches > IMPROVE YOUR GUS PATCHES [ very long, VERY informative tutorial deleted ] Yeah, but if I could use some of the pro samples I talked about before, I could avoid this whole Kabuki dance entirely! :-) >From: David Britton >Subject: I stand corrected >Apologies to all on my previous post about the grand piano patch. obviously, >I was clueless; thanks to all who helped straighten me out :) [ snip, snip] >Once again, sorry; next time I'll keep my :0 shut. Jeez, it's not like we FLAMED you or anything... Rule 14: Never apologize. Rule 14a: Never stand corrected - sit down and get comfortable. Rule 17: Do NOT under any circumstances claim to be clueless until your application has been processed by the appropriate authorities. >From: Jayeson Lee-Steere >Subject: Mega-Em 1.00B012 on EPAS >Things to be added for version 1.00: >* Pitch bending. If anyone knows the sensitivity of the Sound Canvas pitch > bending, I would be glad to hear from you. I think it defaults to 2 semitones, BUT the GM spec specifically calls out 'Pitch Bend Range' controller message as a required feature, so I think you will have to change this on the fly. >From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor) >Subject: Roberto Sierra's MIDI posts [snip...] >They are all Type 2 MIDI files, though some have Type 1 versions >posted as well. Most of them will exercise your MIDI gear >strenuously. The 4th movement of Beethoven's 5th has 23 tracks >going simultaneously at one point. I thought Type 2 was for multi-sequence files (e.g. drum pattern files); Recording Session and Trax load these as Type 1 without any trouble. >Problem: they all use what appear to be custom instrument >mappings (bear with me, my terminology is probably whacked). Not just custom MAPPINGS, but (I think) custom INSTRUMENTS (patches) as well...he talks about posting sysex files for people with similar H/W. The main problem from OUR point of view is that these are NOT GM files in any way, shape, or form. I've managed to 'repatch' some of them for GUS usage and will upload later if I'm happy with the results :-). >Second problem: they won't play at all under Windows with the >Media Player. Media Player has a (undocumented?) limit of 64K for a MIDI file; larger ones just hang it, at least on my machine. I don't have these files on the machine here at work, but they are major-league sequences: I'd be very suprised if a lot of them didn't exceed 64K. Trax and Recording Session handle them OK though. > I have been able to do this in some primitive >fashion by editing default.cfg and using Playmidi to hear the >results of my reassignments. But this can't be the correct way >to do it. >Roberto included descriptions of what instruments he used on >which channels, and what MIDI gear he used to do it (D-70 and >a Proteus something-or-other). Nope: use Recording Session or Sequencer of Your Choice (TM) to change the patch assignments. Note that some of the tracks have instrument changes embedded and will take a LOT of work to untangle. ************************************************************************ Lee DeRaud Will program Windows for food. Rockwell Int. AESD (Hey, I'm easy but I'm not cheap!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- My own opinions only, not those of Rockwell International. (Yeah, right: like anyone around here cares what *I* say...NOT!) ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 4:49:09 PDT From: Christopher Jon Wilkins Subject: Music Odds & Ends Message-ID: <199308091149.EAA05832@power.Stanford.EDU> Hi all. Just caught up on a weeks digests. I feel a bit out of dat, but some coments on things... Firstly, as to the suggestion of modifying the patches: fine, but note that if anyone writes something specifically for the GUS (eg. me) I use the standard patches as is. If you've modified yours then my files will sound different on your machine. It is unlikely to sound better because if it sounded funny in the first place I will have done something to it. Then again, if you're using Sound Canvas sequenced files, then you may be better off with modifications to try and match the Sound Canvas. The point is that the sequencing makes much more difference to the `sound' than the raw patches do. Secondly, about the Grand Piano patch problem. I have no doubt that it is possible to do a much better Grand Piano patch but it will be a lot bigger. I would have though half a meg for a reasnable to good patch. I've had a little play with picking off the TG-55 piano patch from my TG-55 module, but since I'm using an EGA monitor while on holidays and Patch doesn't properly support an EGA monitor I haven;'t got all that far. The problem isn't the envelopes, it's having LONG attacks before the loop cuts in. Another thing: whoever was complaining about cutting off cymbals: it's fairly straightforward to modify the patch to create a cutting off cymbal. Just use the sustain version of the envelope in Patch.exe. I've had to do it to a few hi-hats and a triangle which I still haven't managed to upload to epas successfully (sorry guys, my modem doesn't seem to work properly - I'll work it out sooner or later). One more thing: about what happens on startup - I think the Windows startup routines are checking for whether files exist - I say this becasue they give me error messages of missing or non-existent patches all the time since I'm modifying ultrasnd.ini. The real question is why this can't be bypassed - most people aren't changing ultrasnd.ini at all so why check every single time. And a quick note for Francois while I'm here: I'm not really in a position to do much checking out of patches at the moment since my modem is misbehaving and at 2400 baud it takes all day to download half a meg. Still, I will get around to checking out those 808 drum patches sometime and I'm sure they'll be much appreciated! Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 12:31:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Edmund E. Tsai" Subject: New SONG composed by ME Message-ID: <8gNbjhS00WB4EKKm5X@andrew.cmu.edu> I will be posting a song called 'Chasing the Future' which is an original piece of music composed by me, using mostly the Gravis Ultrasound. It was developed using the Gravis Ultrasound and Roland D-70 Synthesizer but after conversion, it is still very close to the original (I had to sample one of my D-70 patches though). This song is copywrited so please don't even think about using it in a public performance or selling it commercially without asking me, because I will come down with all my wrath and vengence ;> E. e. Tsai ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 12:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Edmund E. Tsai" Subject: New Song composed by ME Message-ID: I forgot to mention the .zip archive is about 360K, and contains new patches. A few I will mention: new kick drum, snare drum, timbales, castanets, some bass synth sounds, and a cymbalon type sound sampled from my synth. E. e. Tsai ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 12:57:15 -0400 From: jericho!gord (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center) Subject: Note offs.. Message-ID: <9308091657.AA16097@smos.bc.ca> I'll try loading up the crash cymbal in the patch editor and see what I can do. I need the choked cymbal effect for my next powerchords project... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 08:06:35 -0600 From: craigman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Craig Anderson) Subject: OS/2 Drivers - What's the Point? Message-ID: <9308091307.AA07492@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Don't get me wrong for the subject header - it's just that I don't understand why there is so much demand for the os/2 drivers. I know of no software (sequencing, editing, scripting, etc.) that has been written for os/2, so why would the GUS be useful on that platform? (Unless, of course, I'm COMPLETELY wrong about existing software) ######################## ## Craig ## A Man of Mission ## Anderson ######################## ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:18:00 -0400 From: jericho!gord (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center) Subject: Re: Roberto Sierra's MIDI Greatest Hits Message-ID: <9308091718.AA16196@smos.bc.ca> I too grabbed a copy of these midi files and found that they were not patch mapped to general midi. The easiest way to fix them is this: Make sure your midi driver under windows allows lots of voices (ie probably 32 for these files). Load up Winjammer, load in one of the midi files. The midi files are commented as to what instrument each track should be used. Open up the back of the GUS 2.06 manual to the GM patch listing (or grab a GM patch list from somewhere). In the file I converted, There were dual channels of instruments (Say Flute1 and Flute2) So for each channel, See what instrument winjammer lists in the comment file, set the patch number to an appropriate GM patch, and change the midi channel. I renumbered them all in sequence. IE Flute1 and Flute2 use the same patch so I changed the midi channel to 1. Viola1 and Viola2 use the same instrument, so I set them both to channel 2. It would be nice to give each channel its own midi value, BUT.. the file I did had 23 channels, and there are only 16 midi channels. NOTE: don't try to assign a musical patch into channel 10, you'll get drum sounds instead.. Note also that there is a Timpani patch to use that does not belong on channel 10. I can't remember if the files needed to be Vmapped, but I think they do. (Extremely busy weekend, kind of fogged my brain..) The one sample I did seemed pretty good, but a little fast. I may try to slow it down a bit.. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 93 07:40:18 EDT From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@CompuServe.COM> Subject: third try at chord patch info... Message-ID: <930809114018_71333.2166_DHQ41-2@CompuServe.COM> > I keep posting this and the important info keeps getting lost... > Last time the stuff in this area made it, so... > re - Changing Chord Rhythm Patch in PowCho (Outbox) > Brennan Stephens > Oh ye gurus hear my plea... > Is there any way to change the rythm patch in Power Chords? Can I > change it in .ini file? > From the main menu, select 'Options', then 'Tuning...'. Click on one > of the buttons marked 'P'. This will allow you to change the chord > patch. > Tried to post this once but it got cut off. Hope this gets to you. > Course if you are reading this, it did. > Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 18:01:26 EDT From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #8 Message-ID: <9308092201.AA15795@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> > Date: Sat, 07 Aug 93 19:22:06 GMT > From: thomasvk@blackhl.hacktic.nl (Thomas van Kuipers) > Subject: adress gravis/registerian gus/OTHER SOUNDCARDS/NEW GUS/new disks/thanks > > Hi gusers, (ultrasound@dsd.es.com) > > A lot of things: > - Some asked what the latest sbos was? i think 2.10b. It's > loctated op epas in submit or so and called gus0034.zip. > Actually, gus0034.zip contains the fixes to the 2.06 disks. The latest SBOS would be found in gus0033.zip. > The second i heard that the company which makes GF1 has > brought out a GF2. (don't know specifications) It probably be > a gus with a max of 8 Mb RAM and a lot more (but compatible?). > The GF1 was partly designed by Forte, so I would imagine that Forte had a big hand in the GF2 as well. (I think the GF stands for Gravis Forte.) Thus, the GFx series would likely only show up in Gravis' products and not their competitors'. I don't expect to see a GF2- equipped GUS in the near future. > >>>>> Please Gravis reply to what IS coming and what is CRAP! > > >> Watch out Gravis guys the concurence is near you. I heard > some card called studio or so (i don't exact name yet) for > second hand $250 (so the card is more expensive than gus) > ..... You probably what about it? The main thing is that it is > an SB and SB PRO and SB 16 ASP and Waveblaster and GUS and 16 > bit recordering and SCSI-2 on board ALL in ONE! I'm a little skeptical... > Some friend of mind (a bit a gus-freak is ALLREADTY going to > sell the gus, because of the reason). What i didn't mention is > it features: > 16 bit recording and play back The Aria chipset can apparently only do 12-bit recording. > 32 voices wave table syntesizes > 1 mb (8 mb max) of RAM on board. > 4 mb ROM protious samples (like waveblaster). > SCSI-2 on board (for fast scsi-cd-rom) > a DSP (digital sound processor) on board!! > and last but not least the ARIA chipset. > > This means that with aria you have hardware gus compatible. In > the board sb pro is hardware(!!) compabtible and all so PAS > comp. RAM and ROM is the best way combined with a thrue DSP > you can get voice-regnition. > > I don't know more about it but it looks through my and the > information as the ultimate sound card at the moment (in shop > i think it cost about $400 or so if avaible), because sb > pro/gus/ram/rom/dsp/scsi .... what more do you need?? > A test drive. :) This card doesn't sound technically feasible, especially all its compatibility modes. > Date: Sun, 08 Aug 93 23:27:25 GMT > From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor) > Subject: Roberto Sierra's MIDI posts > Message-ID: > [...] > Problem: they all use what appear to be custom instrument > mappings (bear with me, my terminology is probably whacked). If > you play them with Playmidi, all the tracks come through, but > they are all either acoustic piano, or some inappropriate > percussion instrument. Tocatta & Fugue suffers the most, with > scratchers and high hats playing at the silliest of times. The > 4th movement of Ludwig's 5th sounds like a two-piano arrangement. > > Second problem: they won't play at all under Windows with the > Media Player. I have performed both pupdate and have copied the > midimap.cfg to \windows\system. Canyon.mid plays, but > beet5m4.mid is silent, as are all the others. > The .mids are not making program change calls for each channel. When playmidi doesn't find a program change for a channel, it uses the grand piano patch for it. Media Player, OTOH, fails to load any patch for a channel unless it has a program change message, so you won't hear anything. > Roberto included descriptions of what instruments he used on > which channels, and what MIDI gear he used to do it (D-70 and > a Proteus something-or-other). > Use WinJammer to assign the appropriate instruments to the channels. If the percussions don't use the GM key map, then it will be very tedious to get them right. > Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1993 17:39:46 -0100 > From: Emanuele.Pucciarelli@p60.f511.n333.z2.fidonet.sublink.org (Emanuele Pucciarelli) > Subject: SBOS and Windows > Message-ID: <744680101.AA00822@wolf.fidonet.org> > > When I load SBOS before Windows, running DOS applications causes strange > errors, like 'Error on load of SBOS library' or 'Interrupt time out'. Simply do not load SBOS before Windows or during a DOS session in Windows. SBOS does not work with Windows at all. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 10:39:07 +0930 (CST) From: Gavin Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #8 Message-ID: <930810103907.18c6b@hfrd.dsto.gov.au> >It's simple, WinJammer version 2.1 does not support patch caching, so you must >use the Patch Manager to load the patches. Or, get a copy of Winjammer 2.24 which does support patch caching, it's on Epas! >From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor) >Subject: Roberto Sierra's MIDI posts >Problem: they all use what appear to be custom instrument >mappings (bear with me, my terminology is probably whacked). You should use a MIDI file editor such as winjammer 2.24 to edit the Program/patch (can't remember the terminology winjam uses) changes. Don't play with your cfg or ini files. Oh, and are these files available anywhere except alt.binaries.sounds.music ? >From: Jayeson Lee-Steere >Subject: Mega-Em 1.00B012 on EPAS >* Some form of .ini file system, where Mega-Em will log which instruments > a program uses. Excellent! True MT32 game compatibility is around the corner then. >* The ability to use the Ultrasound MIDI port to emulate a MPU-401. Great , then I can sell my MPU401 to pay for Mega-em registration ;-). Seriously though, I think $25 is quite good and no excuse not to register. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 8:07:33 PDT From: plam@pcocd2.intel.com (Peter Lam -MPG MD57) Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <9308091507.AA11834@frx730> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 00:55:26 -0400 (EDT) From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Update on patches Message-ID: <9308100455.AA00114@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Ok, i finally put 808add1.arj on epas. The hihats should be correct now, same thing for the congas and the claves. The cowbell instrument (the one with a full keyboard range: cowbell.pat) is also corrected. Note that all these patches include the name, so for example in patch manager you can use the "use name in patches" instead of the generic GM names. Now, in beta test is the TR-727 kit and the steeldrums (soft and hard). A few analogs may go into beta tomorrow (if i get a few testers). The TR-909 is well under way, along with the CR-78. The TR-626 is also near alpha testing (testing by me :P ). I also received a few disk with TB-303 and TR-909 samples that i will probably transform in patches (i received a box of 10 disks from a nice netter "in appreciation of the effort". Dunno if you are on the list, but thanks Will. The 303 sounds are cool... however it'll be hard to fit in the 64Kb limit... we'll see). So to recap, i have what i need for: TB-303 (bassline) TR-626 (sampled percs) TR-727 (latin percs) TR-808 (dance, spacey percs) TR-909 (hard, techno percs) (got some kick drums finally) Now, i just need: SH-101 (cheap analog synth) MC-202 (micro composer - yes it does have sounds) TR-505 (? percs) TR-606 (sampled percs) TR-707 (cheesy percs :P ) To complete the line :), so if you have samples or the real mccoy, send the samples or a DAT of these to me and i'll make patches of these... Last, i'll be uploading this week a "test kit" with .wav and .pat of: -the touch tone beeps -pink noise -100Hz sine -1000Hz sine -4KHz sine -10KHz sine -20KHz sine After that, what is almost finished will go under beta and after that uploaded. Then, the next bunch of patches will probably go in september... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 14:29:31 EDT From: jwaugh@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca Message-ID: <9308091833.AA27182@sunee.uwaterloo.ca> A long time ago, back when I had a Soundblaster, I managed to find a set of drum .WAVs that were sampled at 44.1KHz (and I believe 16-bit). There were about 40 .WAV files. I now have a GUS and ULTRA TRACKER that can use those files... anybody recognize what I am talking about and where I can find them? Or, for that matter, does anyone have any idea where I can FTP some 16-bit drum samples? ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #9 ************************************ To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.)