Ultrasound Daily Digest Fri Jul 23 00:45 Volume 4: Issue 51 Today's Topics: 2.07 disk Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 e-mail problems gravis tech support? Mega-Em Version 1.00B09 on EPAS MIDIMapper Glitches, Audio Output, Disjointed Rambling NMI stuff Recording Session Returned mail (3 msgs) SBOS-V2.B10 Subscription Request Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 (3 msgs) Win 3.1 GUS Mixer control of Line-In and CD-In Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 10:45:42 -0400 From: Martin Talbot Subject: 2.07 disk Message-ID: <199307221445.AA24466@info.polymtl.ca> Hi ! I just read about a 2.07 version ???? Where is it ??? It's not on epas. Strange ! Mart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 9:27:49 CDT From: "Anibal A. Acero" Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Message-ID: I have an Adaptec 1452C and a GUS, and I was having a similar problem with Strike Command. It appears that some games are too aggressive when they search for a sound card. The fix, in my case, was to answer 'no' to 'automatically detect sound card', and to install it manually. I don't know if that will work for you. Tony Acero Tony Acero\ Try LINUX -- a no cost UNIX system for the 386/486 / U Chicago ICS: LLama \ ftp from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/SLS / chem grad a coy tenor \________________________________________________/ GIICS auth a-acero@uchicago.edu | (312) 702-8214 (work) | (312)752-5464 (home) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 12:15:51 -0500 (CDT) From: CS_RMOYE@CS1.LAMAR.EDU Subject: e-mail problems Message-ID: <930722121551.20200768@CS1.LAMAR.EDU> I have sent two or three mail messages to Gravis within the last two weeks. All have been returned with the message" RETURNED MESSAGE ADVISORY - NO REGISTERED USER BY THAT NAME AT THIS SITE. Do you know if there is a problem with Gravis receiving mail or have the e-mail addresses changed recently? Regards, Roger cs_rmoye@cs1.lamar.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 11:13:20 CDT From: monty@butler.cps.com (Montgomery Kosma) Subject: gravis tech support? Message-ID: <2c4ebca4.butler@butler.cps.com> can somebody tell me the proper email address for gravis tech support? Everything I've tried has bounced. (like tech@gravis.com, tech_1@gravis.com, etc.) -- Montgomery Kosma monty@butler.cps.com Phone: 816-968-3542 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 09:48:56 +0800 (WST) From: Jayeson Lee-Steere Subject: Mega-Em Version 1.00B09 on EPAS Message-ID: <199307230148.JAA27231@tartarus> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard Subject: GUS - Mega-Em Version 1.00B09 on EPAS This version should hopefully fix problems introduced with version .08b. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 06:16:37 PDT From: deraud@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (Robert Lee DeRaud) Subject: MIDIMapper Glitches, Audio Output, Disjointed Rambling Message-ID: <9307221316.AA08662@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com> >From: Clarke Brunt >Subject: Re: varying MIDI results >disabled, or with some patches mapped into other ones. The >MIDI Mapper setup supplied with the GUS has channels 11 to 16 >turned off for one thing, so any .MID using these won't play >correctly until they are enabled. Urp...that explains a LOT of weird things I've heard!! The chris*.mid files in particular use a lot of channels for chorus and echo effects. On a separate subject, probably a FAQ, is there a simple way to enable the Line In so I can listen to audio CD's from *DOS*? The Windows driver (or somebody) disables it when exiting Windows: the CD keeps playing but the sound cuts off. I have a DOS utility similar to WinCD Pro to play the things but it doesn't have a clue how to enable the audio pass-through. (Yeah, I know I could write a utility to do it but I have to draw the line SOMEWHERE!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 12:27:35 -0400 From: David D'Antonio Subject: Re: NMI stuff Message-ID: <9307221627.AA05683@magick.tay2.dec.com> Sam Mertens writes: (note that mail to you bounced) > It seems that NMI was set up at a time when RAM was much less reliable > than it is now. It is still used today, of course, but some motherboards > don't bother to check the memory- they assume its fine (I've never had > memory chips go bad on me. Memory CONTROLLERS, yes, but not the actual RAM). As a matter of fact, my brother's machine has had an entire 4MB bank go bad. He thinks it was due to heat, in that the power supply fan was erratic...So it DOES happen... > The operating principle behind NMI is a parity check - memory is > physically addressed by a row and grid method, so the computer adds up all > the 1s and 0s in each row, and the parity for that row is set to a number > (0 or 1) that when added to the row's sum, will result in either an 'even' > number or an 'odd' number... I'm not quite sure how even and odd apply to > binary terms, nor exactly what goes on during all that adding (bit by bit? > Byte by byte?). The system then, of course, goes back to check Parity is rather simple. Each 8-bit byte as an extra bit devoted to parity (hence the 9-chip SIMM [1 bit per chip] and the 3-chip SIMM [1 nibble per SIMM with an extra 1 bit chip]). The number of 1's in this byte is added and the parity bit is set to make that number 'even' or 'odd' depending on the parity scheme. It's pretty good (it takes flipping 2 bits to have the parity bit not change so this method will catch 1-bit errors). There are much better methods available, but they tend to require either more processor intervention and/or more bits to make them work (Hamming codes are popular because they can detect and CORRECT errors)... As far as I understand it, NMI stands for Non-Maskable Interrupt and it is usually devoted to memory parity. However, it can be handled by someone other than the system (SBOS in this case). I think what happens is that the game writes to the SoundBlaster port, gets an error (after all, the port isn't there!) which triggers an NMI. SBOS traps the NMI and if it's for the SB ports, it handles it, otherwise it passes it on...But then, this is only my guess at how it might work... DDA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 10:01:30 EDT From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Recording Session Message-ID: <9307221401.AA10099@alfredo> Repost: My Recording Session does not have 32nd and 64th note buttons nor the tie button in the toolbox although the online help says that it does. Do other people have the same cripple ware? -Tim ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jul 93 08:15:18 EDT From: MAILER-DAEMON@ncrcae.columbiasc.NCR.COM Subject: Returned mail Message-ID: <9307220846.aa23908@ncrhub1.NCR.COM> Your mail could not be delivered because of the following reason: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Executing: /usr/lib/mail/surrcmd/smtpqer -C -u ncrhub1!dsd.es.com!ultrasound churchill ulmer@churchill smtpqer: Binary contents cannot be sent via SMTP server "/usr/lib/mail/surrcmd/smtpqer" failed - unknown mailer error 1 ----- Unsent message follows ----- ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jul 93 08:49:23 EDT From: MAILER-DAEMON@ncrcae.columbiasc.NCR.COM Subject: Returned mail Message-ID: <9307220851.aa24006@ncrhub1.NCR.COM> Your mail could not be delivered because of the following reason: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Executing: /usr/lib/mail/surrcmd/smtpqer -C -u ncrhub1!dsd.es.com!ultrasound grok82 whetzel@grok82 smtpqer: Binary contents cannot be sent via SMTP server "/usr/lib/mail/surrcmd/smtpqer" failed - unknown mailer error 1 ----- Unsent message follows ----- ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jul 93 14:49:35 EDT From: MAILER-DAEMON@ncrcae.columbiasc.NCR.COM Subject: Returned mail Message-ID: <9307221857.aw04213@ncrhub1.NCR.COM> Your mail could not be delivered because of the following reason: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Executing: /usr/lib/mail/surrcmd/smtpqer -C -u ncrhub1!dsd.es.com!ultrasound endeavor jeff@endeavor smtpqer: Binary contents cannot be sent via SMTP server "/usr/lib/mail/surrcmd/smtpqer" failed - unknown mailer error 1 ----- Unsent message follows ----- ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jul 93 14:41:52 GMT+0100 From: "Alexander Majarek, Sascha, SAM" Subject: SBOS-V2.B10 Message-ID: I downloaded GUS0033.ZIP (SBOS 2.B10) from EPAS yesterday. The zip- file was corrupted. But when I tried from WUARCHIVE the same thing happened. (I used IMAGE :=} for transfer). When I ZIPFIX it, I get a few files, but SBOSDRV.SYS (or the like) is damaged. Any hint? Did that happen to any other? If the file is corrupted (it has only 78 K) could someone be so kind to upload a non-corrupted version? Thanks in advance, SAM ********************************************************************* *Alexander.Majarek@uibk.ac.at * There are 3 ways (fast, sweet, sure)* *Perthalerg. 1c/11 * for a man to ruin himself: * *A-6020 Innsbruck * 1. Gamblin' (fast), * *AUSTRIA (EUROPE) * 2. Women (sweet) & * *Tel.: 0043-512-84-26-15 * 3. Computers (sure) * ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 22:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: DAVEDENNISON@delphi.com Subject: Subscription Request Message-ID: <01H0UXPJ1T3C9AMP26@delphi.com> I am writing this Email to subscribe to the daily newsletter of the Gravis Ultrasound. Please redirect the subscription to : davidd@rails.coat.com Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu Jul 22 00:46:35 1993 From: Ultrasound Server Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 Message-ID: <9307220930.AA22553@itchy> Ultrasound Daily Digest Thu Jul 22 00:46 Volume 4: Issue 50 Today's Topics: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Auto-reply to: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 GUS+SB Another method.. GUSMOD conflict and uss8 mouse How can I get proper volume response under Windows 3.1? MegEm b10 Number of active voices Ultramid doesn't work Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 (2 msgs) Various things varying MIDI results Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Jul 93 11:38 -0700 From: Rolf Velthuys Subject: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Message-ID: <1663*velthuys@cs.ubc.ca> Hi, I've recently added an adaptec scsi card (1542 C) and a SCSI drive to my system (already GUS equipped) . Essentially, installation went fine, had no problems in selecting DMA channels, I/O addresses and IRQ numbers. All programs run just as fine from my old IDE drive as they do from the scsi drive. Games can use SBOS succesfully, and all the regular GUS demos work fine. All's well except for Falcon3. When I run Falcon3 it crashes the system (have to use reset button) after the introductory screens and when you're supposed to go to the war room. Anybody any hints as to things I should check ? btw. I'm running DOS 6 (without stacker) (will change to OS2 soon). Rolf ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:34:59 +0200 (EET DST) From: eskimo@nullnet.fi (fingon [autoreply]) Subject: Auto-reply to: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <199307211635.AA16376@nullnet.fi> I'm sorry, but I'm currently far away from my access to Usenet. I'll be back sometime in the evening of friday, 23.7. (To dudes at the Gravis lists: Feel free to drop me out if this reply annoys you too much, :) ). ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 9:27:01 GMT From: bre@os.is Subject: GUS+SB Another method.. Message-ID: <9307210927.AA02503@blesi.os.is> Hi all! First of all I want to thank everybody who replied to my post about Soundblaster and GUS co-existance. I have got it working now, and this is how I did it (some minor stuff deleted): GUS.BAT: set ultrasnd = 240,3,3,11,7 Ultrinit set blaster = A240 I7 D1 T1 SBON.BAT gusmixer -l1 -o1 gusclear set blaster = A220 I5 D1 T1 Gusmixer and Gusclear are utilities that I have seen on Epas and Wuarchive (I got em from a friend), one enables the line in and the other clears GUS memory (and registers?). Gusmixer is by one of the members of TZ. This setup allows me to run SBOS whenever I need it, which seems to be something other people can't do.. (nyah nyah :-) It still isn't quite perfect, some games (lemmings 1) don't work at all, while others need SBOS (oh no! more lemmings). Most others, including POP II, BRIX and MONKEY ISLAND work just fine in soundblaster mode. Also, since I don't use DMA 1 for the GUS, I can't use the current version of MEGA-EM.. *sigh* Does anybody know if this will be fixed in the next release? And my .02$ about MEGA-EM: DON'T USE ULTRAMID! It takes way too much RAM! ______________________________________________ ___________________ / \ / \ ( "Shee, you guys are so unhip its a wonder your O Bjarni R. Einarsson ) ( bums don't fall off!" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox O - - bre@os.is - - ) \______________________________________________/ \___________________/ ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:09:13 EDT From: gregg@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gregg D. Asherman) Subject: GUSMOD conflict and uss8 mouse Message-ID: <9307211509.AA02665@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com> Hi; I downloaded GUSMOD to use as a module player, but it locks up I think I know what the problem is, but you insight might help my setup of GUS: 220 7 7 12 7 I am using dma 7 (16bit) IRQ 12 (GF1) irq 7 (sb) I have an adaptec 1542 scsi cont. as a second controller on IRQ 11 ** when I run gusmod, it seems to force the GUS to IRQ 11, thus hanging my scsi devices out to dry. IF I can get a general failure message I then run ultrinit.exe from my C: drive (IDE) and the interrupt is forced back to 12 on the gus and all is fine again. to get this program to work I may try these variations set the adaptec to some other IRQ and run GUS at IRQ 11 ( I think the programmer hard coded IRQ 11 in the prog.) 220 7 7 11 5 and change the (SB) IRQ to 5 &&&&&&&&&&&&& new subject &&&&&&&&& I also had a problem with USS8, the mouse pointer was invisible. you could pull down menus but not see a pointer. I installed an older mouse driver for a microsoft 2 button mouse and now I see the pointer under the USS8 program. good thing my mouse is switchable 2 nad 3 button P.S. I am still looking for a newer mouse driver to handle all three buttons Gregg Asherman -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Gregg Asherman (305)977-5604 work | | | | gregg@hrshcx.mkt.csd.harris.com | | gregg@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com | +-------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 16:35:03 CDT From: xeno@iastate.edu Subject: How can I get proper volume response under Windows 3.1? Message-ID: <9307212135.AA03638@iastate.edu> While running my GUS under Windows 3.1, the volume response is terrible. Any sound played 'softly' is nearly inaudible and any sound that is audible drowns out all of the other instruments. I know that the GUS hardware has a nonlinear response (as determined by the human ear)... but I would think that the MIDI driver for Windows would have been designed to take care of it. Can anyone tell me if there is a solution to this problem? I've downloaded the latest (2.07L?) disks and installed them with no noticeable change in behavior. If I'm missing some setting or option in the drivers window, feel free to ding me... ;) I haven't checked these windows since I upgraded to 2.07. Thanks, ---Xeno ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 10:04 GMT From: "Jonathan D. Hall" Subject: MegEm b10 Message-ID: <9307210902.AA23575@orca.es.com> Hi all, I've just downloaded megaem beta10 from epas and I'm having a few problems getting it to work. I had beta6 to work just fine, for the 10 minute demo period anyway, but I get no soud at all from this newer version. It says in the documentaion that the 10 minute demo period has been removed from this version. I thought this would mean no time limit, not no sound at all! Jon ========================================================================= Jonathan Hall University of Glamorgan Computer Assistant Department of Property & Development Studies jdhall@glamorgan.ac.uk Pontypridd Tel (0443)482135 Mid Glamorgan CF37 1DL, United Kingdom ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:49:47 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: Number of active voices Message-ID: <0096FD3D.37A39C20.15769@lsl.co.uk> > Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for > windows. How about loading the midi file and then setting the > number of voices to the number required by the midi file... In > that way a song with 6 tracks will get the maximum of 14 voices > 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can the > number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets > the number of active voices back to the original setting... Any > further comments or ideas ? Sounds a good idea - as I've said before, some patches can sound awful when played with a high number of active voices, presubably because the sampling is then far less than 44kHz. At present, the number of active voices under Windows has to be set in Control Panel, and cannot be changed without restarting Windows. I'm not sure if it would be possible to have a driver which allowed dynamic changes. I think the problem might be that any patches already loaded would need their parameters adjusting to suit the new number of voices. As a sideline, when you cache patches from a program in Windows (by passing an array with bits set for each patch you want), does it re-load all the requested patches, or just the ones no loaded already? ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 20:40:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Schaepker Subject: Ultramid doesn't work Message-ID: Hi ! I seem to be one of the only people having real trouble to get these AIL/Miles-Ultramid-thing to run. My problems are: - Ultramid [-c] installs fine with Ultrasound MIDI and digital sound TSR v1.00 Copyright ... All rights reserved. but then - no game with AIL (Dune 2, 1gate, jrob) gives any sound - Ultramid -f shows: UltraMID TSR not resident. QEMM's MFT and mem show Ultramid loaded normally. - GF166.com shows: Unable to install interrupt vector. UltraMID TSR not detected. I did install everything correct (pupdate, ultramid.ini), I hope. I use the 2.06L installation (as registration disks did not hit me yet) and the gus0034 patch, Ultramid is version 1.00 (not that 0.96 or 0.97 did anything else). I never had problems with SBOS. MEGAEM works for me since 0.08B. I tried it with any memory configuration I could think of (QEMM 6.03, Himem, EMM386) - no difference. If it matters: I have a 386-40 FOREX chipset and busspeed at CLK/4 (can't set it to CLK/5), my GUS has 1 meg. Anyone out there who can help ? Please ... Juergen -------------------------------------------------------------------- - Internet: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 09:09:06 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 21-Jul-1993 0909" Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <9307211309.AA02364@us2rmc.bb.dec.com> >From: PWRJAM01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA >Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #48 >Message-ID: <01H0SP1NSW2A8WW5N0@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA> > >Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for windows. How >about loading the midi file and then setting the number of voices to the >number >required by the midi file... In that way a song with 6 tracks will get the >maximum of 14 voices 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can >the number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets the number >of active voices back to the original setting... Any further comments or >ideas ? For some reason, I was dropped from the digest for a few days, so I don't know the context of this posting. However, one problem with the idea presented here is that a single track can easily have multiple simultaneous notes within it. So unless you analyzed the MIDI file, you could not blindly assume that tracks==(max notes). Further, one might well have lots of tracks (maybe 1/patch), but not have them all going simultaneously. Burns ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 14:19:24 EDT From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <9307211819.AA08412@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 9:14:24 CDT > From: "Anibal A. Acero" > Subject: SC2 demo hangs > Message-ID: > > I can't get the sc2_demo to do anything; it hangs before any graphics are > displayed, or any music sounded. I've tried booting clean (only himem.sys > + GUS setup stuff in config.sys and autoexec.bat; I probably even tried it > without himem.sys) with and without SBOS installed > > Setup: > GUS w/ 1MB of memory (ULTRASND=220,1,1,12,5) I know that SC2 will not upload samples properly if you are using 8-bit DMA channels (though the game didn't hang on me). Try changing your DMA's to 5, 6, or 7. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 07:58:40 +0200 > From: PWRJAM01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA > Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #48 > Message-ID: <01H0SP1NSW2A8WW5N0@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA> > > Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for windows. How > about loading the midi file and then setting the number of voices to the number > required by the midi file... In that way a song with 6 tracks will get the > maximum of 14 voices 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can > the number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets the number > of active voices back to the original setting... Any further comments or > ideas ? > Determining the number of voices a MID needs is more complicated than just looking at the number of tracks since each track can control any combination of the 16 MIDI channels, and each channel can have up to 128 notes going at once. Furthermore, the Windows drivers currently do not let you change the number of voices without requiring a restart of Windows. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 00:31:09 EDT > From: Stephen Ferguson > Subject: varying MIDI results > Message-ID: <9307210439.AA17265@orca.es.com> > > Robert Lee DeRaud wrote about getting different results with .MID > files depending on which player he was using. I've noticed this myself. > I thought I was just hearing things until I tried the file jump.mid > which is quite a good version of Van Halen's Jump. Playmidi snapped > crackled and popped. Media Player played a very flat sounding version > and I thought "this isn't such a great Midi file". Then I tried > WinJammer's Player and was very impressed. I loaded up Patchman to > see what was going on. Media Player only loaded about 7 melodic patches > (and not all the right ones) where WinJammer loaded all the proper patches. > Why? When a MID "crackles and pops", turn down its overall volume. For example, use -v100 with PlayMIDI. It's always a good idea to never play anything at max volume on the GUS to avoid clipping, since clipping on the GUS results in the signal wrapping around the scale instead of flattening out on the floor or on the ceiling. (This is due to the use of signed data.) As for the differences between Media Player and WinJammer, you probably have WinJammer bypassing MIDIMapper. If you enter MIDIMapper and enable all 16 channels for the Ultrasound setup, then you shouldn't hear a difference between Media Player and WinJammer any more. Phat. ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Mertens Subject: Various things Message-ID: 1) I have heard that Star Control 2 (the real version, not the game) had some bugs with GUSs loaded with 1 meg memory. It only makes sense, then, if the demo does too. 2) Ultramid- gotta be carefull with what you jam into memory. Ultima7, for example, requires 560 or so k free. add himem.sys, doublespc.bin (for dos 6), and Ultramid (but NOT Qemm, 386Max, or EMM386 because Ultima7 requires the processor be in real-mode at startup)... w/o UMB drivers, 560k is impossible. But you have to have a UMB driver that will support YOUR chipset in real mode... To make a long story short- how does Ultima 7 sound with the modified drivers? 3) Setting maximum channels for MIDI files: harder than you'd think. Unlike MODs, 669s, etc., MIDI tracks can contain a LOT of notes to be played simultaneously, and they frequently do. So you've got to count not just the individual tracks, but the amount of notes being played in ALL of the tracks at any given time. Then, you need to see how the instrument sounds- if there's a slow decay upon release, that will have to be calculated as being on, even if it was only played for a short time in the MIDI file. This means you've got to refer to each and every patch that the MIDI file calls for, and either calculate just what cuts off when, or have a predefined table, which makes things even more awkward when you start adding new patches. If you're still up for the job though, go to it! :) ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:56:43 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: varying MIDI results Message-ID: <0096FD3E.2FCC0D60.15771@lsl.co.uk> > I thought I was just hearing things until I tried the file > jump.mid which is quite a good version of Van Halen's Jump. > Playmidi snapped crackled and popped. Media Player played > a very flat sounding version and I thought "this isn't such > a great Midi file". Then I tried WinJammer's Player and > was very impressed. I loaded up Patchman to see what was > going on. Media Player only loaded about 7 melodic patches > (and not all the right ones) where WinJammer loaded all the > proper patches. I can understand DOS programs and Windows programs managing to sound different, since they use different drivers, but surely Media Player and WinJammer should sound similar. The only thing I can think of is that Media Player always uses MIDI Mapper, while WinJammer has the choice of MIDI Mapper or direct GUS MIDI Synth. So is Media Player's rendition being ruined by a peculiar MIDI Mapper setup, e.g. with some channels disabled, or with some patches mapped into other ones. The MIDI Mapper setup supplied with the GUS has channels 11 to 16 turned off for one thing, so any .MID using these won't play correctly until they are enabled. ----------------------------- End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 ************************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu Jul 22 00:46:35 1993 From: Ultrasound Server Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 Message-ID: <9307220942.AA24212@itchy> Ultrasound Daily Digest Thu Jul 22 00:46 Volume 4: Issue 50 Today's Topics: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Auto-reply to: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 GUS+SB Another method.. GUSMOD conflict and uss8 mouse How can I get proper volume response under Windows 3.1? MegEm b10 Number of active voices Ultramid doesn't work Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 (2 msgs) Various things varying MIDI results Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Jul 93 11:38 -0700 From: Rolf Velthuys Subject: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Message-ID: <1663*velthuys@cs.ubc.ca> Hi, I've recently added an adaptec scsi card (1542 C) and a SCSI drive to my system (already GUS equipped) . Essentially, installation went fine, had no problems in selecting DMA channels, I/O addresses and IRQ numbers. All programs run just as fine from my old IDE drive as they do from the scsi drive. Games can use SBOS succesfully, and all the regular GUS demos work fine. All's well except for Falcon3. When I run Falcon3 it crashes the system (have to use reset button) after the introductory screens and when you're supposed to go to the war room. Anybody any hints as to things I should check ? btw. I'm running DOS 6 (without stacker) (will change to OS2 soon). Rolf ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:34:59 +0200 (EET DST) From: eskimo@nullnet.fi (fingon [autoreply]) Subject: Auto-reply to: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <199307211635.AA16376@nullnet.fi> I'm sorry, but I'm currently far away from my access to Usenet. I'll be back sometime in the evening of friday, 23.7. (To dudes at the Gravis lists: Feel free to drop me out if this reply annoys you too much, :) ). ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 9:27:01 GMT From: bre@os.is Subject: GUS+SB Another method.. Message-ID: <9307210927.AA02503@blesi.os.is> Hi all! First of all I want to thank everybody who replied to my post about Soundblaster and GUS co-existance. I have got it working now, and this is how I did it (some minor stuff deleted): GUS.BAT: set ultrasnd = 240,3,3,11,7 Ultrinit set blaster = A240 I7 D1 T1 SBON.BAT gusmixer -l1 -o1 gusclear set blaster = A220 I5 D1 T1 Gusmixer and Gusclear are utilities that I have seen on Epas and Wuarchive (I got em from a friend), one enables the line in and the other clears GUS memory (and registers?). Gusmixer is by one of the members of TZ. This setup allows me to run SBOS whenever I need it, which seems to be something other people can't do.. (nyah nyah :-) It still isn't quite perfect, some games (lemmings 1) don't work at all, while others need SBOS (oh no! more lemmings). Most others, including POP II, BRIX and MONKEY ISLAND work just fine in soundblaster mode. Also, since I don't use DMA 1 for the GUS, I can't use the current version of MEGA-EM.. *sigh* Does anybody know if this will be fixed in the next release? And my .02$ about MEGA-EM: DON'T USE ULTRAMID! It takes way too much RAM! ______________________________________________ ___________________ / \ / \ ( "Shee, you guys are so unhip its a wonder your O Bjarni R. Einarsson ) ( bums don't fall off!" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox O - - bre@os.is - - ) \______________________________________________/ \___________________/ ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:09:13 EDT From: gregg@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gregg D. Asherman) Subject: GUSMOD conflict and uss8 mouse Message-ID: <9307211509.AA02665@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com> Hi; I downloaded GUSMOD to use as a module player, but it locks up I think I know what the problem is, but you insight might help my setup of GUS: 220 7 7 12 7 I am using dma 7 (16bit) IRQ 12 (GF1) irq 7 (sb) I have an adaptec 1542 scsi cont. as a second controller on IRQ 11 ** when I run gusmod, it seems to force the GUS to IRQ 11, thus hanging my scsi devices out to dry. IF I can get a general failure message I then run ultrinit.exe from my C: drive (IDE) and the interrupt is forced back to 12 on the gus and all is fine again. to get this program to work I may try these variations set the adaptec to some other IRQ and run GUS at IRQ 11 ( I think the programmer hard coded IRQ 11 in the prog.) 220 7 7 11 5 and change the (SB) IRQ to 5 &&&&&&&&&&&&& new subject &&&&&&&&& I also had a problem with USS8, the mouse pointer was invisible. you could pull down menus but not see a pointer. I installed an older mouse driver for a microsoft 2 button mouse and now I see the pointer under the USS8 program. good thing my mouse is switchable 2 nad 3 button P.S. I am still looking for a newer mouse driver to handle all three buttons Gregg Asherman -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Gregg Asherman (305)977-5604 work | | | | gregg@hrshcx.mkt.csd.harris.com | | gregg@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com | +-------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 16:35:03 CDT From: xeno@iastate.edu Subject: How can I get proper volume response under Windows 3.1? Message-ID: <9307212135.AA03638@iastate.edu> While running my GUS under Windows 3.1, the volume response is terrible. Any sound played 'softly' is nearly inaudible and any sound that is audible drowns out all of the other instruments. I know that the GUS hardware has a nonlinear response (as determined by the human ear)... but I would think that the MIDI driver for Windows would have been designed to take care of it. Can anyone tell me if there is a solution to this problem? I've downloaded the latest (2.07L?) disks and installed them with no noticeable change in behavior. If I'm missing some setting or option in the drivers window, feel free to ding me... ;) I haven't checked these windows since I upgraded to 2.07. Thanks, ---Xeno ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 10:04 GMT From: "Jonathan D. Hall" Subject: MegEm b10 Message-ID: <9307210902.AA23575@orca.es.com> Hi all, I've just downloaded megaem beta10 from epas and I'm having a few problems getting it to work. I had beta6 to work just fine, for the 10 minute demo period anyway, but I get no soud at all from this newer version. It says in the documentaion that the 10 minute demo period has been removed from this version. I thought this would mean no time limit, not no sound at all! Jon ========================================================================= Jonathan Hall University of Glamorgan Computer Assistant Department of Property & Development Studies jdhall@glamorgan.ac.uk Pontypridd Tel (0443)482135 Mid Glamorgan CF37 1DL, United Kingdom ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:49:47 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: Number of active voices Message-ID: <0096FD3D.37A39C20.15769@lsl.co.uk> > Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for > windows. How about loading the midi file and then setting the > number of voices to the number required by the midi file... In > that way a song with 6 tracks will get the maximum of 14 voices > 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can the > number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets > the number of active voices back to the original setting... Any > further comments or ideas ? Sounds a good idea - as I've said before, some patches can sound awful when played with a high number of active voices, presubably because the sampling is then far less than 44kHz. At present, the number of active voices under Windows has to be set in Control Panel, and cannot be changed without restarting Windows. I'm not sure if it would be possible to have a driver which allowed dynamic changes. I think the problem might be that any patches already loaded would need their parameters adjusting to suit the new number of voices. As a sideline, when you cache patches from a program in Windows (by passing an array with bits set for each patch you want), does it re-load all the requested patches, or just the ones no loaded already? ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 20:40:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Schaepker Subject: Ultramid doesn't work Message-ID: Hi ! I seem to be one of the only people having real trouble to get these AIL/Miles-Ultramid-thing to run. My problems are: - Ultramid [-c] installs fine with Ultrasound MIDI and digital sound TSR v1.00 Copyright ... All rights reserved. but then - no game with AIL (Dune 2, 1gate, jrob) gives any sound - Ultramid -f shows: UltraMID TSR not resident. QEMM's MFT and mem show Ultramid loaded normally. - GF166.com shows: Unable to install interrupt vector. UltraMID TSR not detected. I did install everything correct (pupdate, ultramid.ini), I hope. I use the 2.06L installation (as registration disks did not hit me yet) and the gus0034 patch, Ultramid is version 1.00 (not that 0.96 or 0.97 did anything else). I never had problems with SBOS. MEGAEM works for me since 0.08B. I tried it with any memory configuration I could think of (QEMM 6.03, Himem, EMM386) - no difference. If it matters: I have a 386-40 FOREX chipset and busspeed at CLK/4 (can't set it to CLK/5), my GUS has 1 meg. Anyone out there who can help ? Please ... Juergen -------------------------------------------------------------------- - Internet: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 09:09:06 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 21-Jul-1993 0909" Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <9307211309.AA02364@us2rmc.bb.dec.com> >From: PWRJAM01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA >Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #48 >Message-ID: <01H0SP1NSW2A8WW5N0@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA> > >Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for windows. How >about loading the midi file and then setting the number of voices to the >number >required by the midi file... In that way a song with 6 tracks will get the >maximum of 14 voices 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can >the number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets the number >of active voices back to the original setting... Any further comments or >ideas ? For some reason, I was dropped from the digest for a few days, so I don't know the context of this posting. However, one problem with the idea presented here is that a single track can easily have multiple simultaneous notes within it. So unless you analyzed the MIDI file, you could not blindly assume that tracks==(max notes). Further, one might well have lots of tracks (maybe 1/patch), but not have them all going simultaneously. Burns ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 14:19:24 EDT From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <9307211819.AA08412@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 9:14:24 CDT > From: "Anibal A. Acero" > Subject: SC2 demo hangs > Message-ID: > > I can't get the sc2_demo to do anything; it hangs before any graphics are > displayed, or any music sounded. I've tried booting clean (only himem.sys > + GUS setup stuff in config.sys and autoexec.bat; I probably even tried it > without himem.sys) with and without SBOS installed > > Setup: > GUS w/ 1MB of memory (ULTRASND=220,1,1,12,5) I know that SC2 will not upload samples properly if you are using 8-bit DMA channels (though the game didn't hang on me). Try changing your DMA's to 5, 6, or 7. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 07:58:40 +0200 > From: PWRJAM01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA > Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #48 > Message-ID: <01H0SP1NSW2A8WW5N0@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA> > > Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for windows. How > about loading the midi file and then setting the number of voices to the number > required by the midi file... In that way a song with 6 tracks will get the > maximum of 14 voices 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can > the number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets the number > of active voices back to the original setting... Any further comments or > ideas ? > Determining the number of voices a MID needs is more complicated than just looking at the number of tracks since each track can control any combination of the 16 MIDI channels, and each channel can have up to 128 notes going at once. Furthermore, the Windows drivers currently do not let you change the number of voices without requiring a restart of Windows. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 00:31:09 EDT > From: Stephen Ferguson > Subject: varying MIDI results > Message-ID: <9307210439.AA17265@orca.es.com> > > Robert Lee DeRaud wrote about getting different results with .MID > files depending on which player he was using. I've noticed this myself. > I thought I was just hearing things until I tried the file jump.mid > which is quite a good version of Van Halen's Jump. Playmidi snapped > crackled and popped. Media Player played a very flat sounding version > and I thought "this isn't such a great Midi file". Then I tried > WinJammer's Player and was very impressed. I loaded up Patchman to > see what was going on. Media Player only loaded about 7 melodic patches > (and not all the right ones) where WinJammer loaded all the proper patches. > Why? When a MID "crackles and pops", turn down its overall volume. For example, use -v100 with PlayMIDI. It's always a good idea to never play anything at max volume on the GUS to avoid clipping, since clipping on the GUS results in the signal wrapping around the scale instead of flattening out on the floor or on the ceiling. (This is due to the use of signed data.) As for the differences between Media Player and WinJammer, you probably have WinJammer bypassing MIDIMapper. If you enter MIDIMapper and enable all 16 channels for the Ultrasound setup, then you shouldn't hear a difference between Media Player and WinJammer any more. Phat. ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Mertens Subject: Various things Message-ID: 1) I have heard that Star Control 2 (the real version, not the game) had some bugs with GUSs loaded with 1 meg memory. It only makes sense, then, if the demo does too. 2) Ultramid- gotta be carefull with what you jam into memory. Ultima7, for example, requires 560 or so k free. add himem.sys, doublespc.bin (for dos 6), and Ultramid (but NOT Qemm, 386Max, or EMM386 because Ultima7 requires the processor be in real-mode at startup)... w/o UMB drivers, 560k is impossible. But you have to have a UMB driver that will support YOUR chipset in real mode... To make a long story short- how does Ultima 7 sound with the modified drivers? 3) Setting maximum channels for MIDI files: harder than you'd think. Unlike MODs, 669s, etc., MIDI tracks can contain a LOT of notes to be played simultaneously, and they frequently do. So you've got to count not just the individual tracks, but the amount of notes being played in ALL of the tracks at any given time. Then, you need to see how the instrument sounds- if there's a slow decay upon release, that will have to be calculated as being on, even if it was only played for a short time in the MIDI file. This means you've got to refer to each and every patch that the MIDI file calls for, and either calculate just what cuts off when, or have a predefined table, which makes things even more awkward when you start adding new patches. If you're still up for the job though, go to it! :) ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:56:43 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: varying MIDI results Message-ID: <0096FD3E.2FCC0D60.15771@lsl.co.uk> > I thought I was just hearing things until I tried the file > jump.mid which is quite a good version of Van Halen's Jump. > Playmidi snapped crackled and popped. Media Player played > a very flat sounding version and I thought "this isn't such > a great Midi file". Then I tried WinJammer's Player and > was very impressed. I loaded up Patchman to see what was > going on. Media Player only loaded about 7 melodic patches > (and not all the right ones) where WinJammer loaded all the > proper patches. I can understand DOS programs and Windows programs managing to sound different, since they use different drivers, but surely Media Player and WinJammer should sound similar. The only thing I can think of is that Media Player always uses MIDI Mapper, while WinJammer has the choice of MIDI Mapper or direct GUS MIDI Synth. So is Media Player's rendition being ruined by a peculiar MIDI Mapper setup, e.g. with some channels disabled, or with some patches mapped into other ones. The MIDI Mapper setup supplied with the GUS has channels 11 to 16 turned off for one thing, so any .MID using these won't play correctly until they are enabled. ----------------------------- End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 ************************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu Jul 22 00:46:35 1993 From: Ultrasound Server Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 Message-ID: <9307220803.AA18527@itchy> Ultrasound Daily Digest Thu Jul 22 00:46 Volume 4: Issue 50 Today's Topics: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Auto-reply to: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 GUS+SB Another method.. GUSMOD conflict and uss8 mouse How can I get proper volume response under Windows 3.1? MegEm b10 Number of active voices Ultramid doesn't work Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 (2 msgs) Various things varying MIDI results Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Jul 93 11:38 -0700 From: Rolf Velthuys Subject: Adaptec 1542C, GUS and Falcon3 Message-ID: <1663*velthuys@cs.ubc.ca> Hi, I've recently added an adaptec scsi card (1542 C) and a SCSI drive to my system (already GUS equipped) . Essentially, installation went fine, had no problems in selecting DMA channels, I/O addresses and IRQ numbers. All programs run just as fine from my old IDE drive as they do from the scsi drive. Games can use SBOS succesfully, and all the regular GUS demos work fine. All's well except for Falcon3. When I run Falcon3 it crashes the system (have to use reset button) after the introductory screens and when you're supposed to go to the war room. Anybody any hints as to things I should check ? btw. I'm running DOS 6 (without stacker) (will change to OS2 soon). Rolf ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:34:59 +0200 (EET DST) From: eskimo@nullnet.fi (fingon [autoreply]) Subject: Auto-reply to: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <199307211635.AA16376@nullnet.fi> I'm sorry, but I'm currently far away from my access to Usenet. I'll be back sometime in the evening of friday, 23.7. (To dudes at the Gravis lists: Feel free to drop me out if this reply annoys you too much, :) ). ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 9:27:01 GMT From: bre@os.is Subject: GUS+SB Another method.. Message-ID: <9307210927.AA02503@blesi.os.is> Hi all! First of all I want to thank everybody who replied to my post about Soundblaster and GUS co-existance. I have got it working now, and this is how I did it (some minor stuff deleted): GUS.BAT: set ultrasnd = 240,3,3,11,7 Ultrinit set blaster = A240 I7 D1 T1 SBON.BAT gusmixer -l1 -o1 gusclear set blaster = A220 I5 D1 T1 Gusmixer and Gusclear are utilities that I have seen on Epas and Wuarchive (I got em from a friend), one enables the line in and the other clears GUS memory (and registers?). Gusmixer is by one of the members of TZ. This setup allows me to run SBOS whenever I need it, which seems to be something other people can't do.. (nyah nyah :-) It still isn't quite perfect, some games (lemmings 1) don't work at all, while others need SBOS (oh no! more lemmings). Most others, including POP II, BRIX and MONKEY ISLAND work just fine in soundblaster mode. Also, since I don't use DMA 1 for the GUS, I can't use the current version of MEGA-EM.. *sigh* Does anybody know if this will be fixed in the next release? And my .02$ about MEGA-EM: DON'T USE ULTRAMID! It takes way too much RAM! ______________________________________________ ___________________ / \ / \ ( "Shee, you guys are so unhip its a wonder your O Bjarni R. Einarsson ) ( bums don't fall off!" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox O - - bre@os.is - - ) \______________________________________________/ \___________________/ ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:09:13 EDT From: gregg@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gregg D. Asherman) Subject: GUSMOD conflict and uss8 mouse Message-ID: <9307211509.AA02665@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com> Hi; I downloaded GUSMOD to use as a module player, but it locks up I think I know what the problem is, but you insight might help my setup of GUS: 220 7 7 12 7 I am using dma 7 (16bit) IRQ 12 (GF1) irq 7 (sb) I have an adaptec 1542 scsi cont. as a second controller on IRQ 11 ** when I run gusmod, it seems to force the GUS to IRQ 11, thus hanging my scsi devices out to dry. IF I can get a general failure message I then run ultrinit.exe from my C: drive (IDE) and the interrupt is forced back to 12 on the gus and all is fine again. to get this program to work I may try these variations set the adaptec to some other IRQ and run GUS at IRQ 11 ( I think the programmer hard coded IRQ 11 in the prog.) 220 7 7 11 5 and change the (SB) IRQ to 5 &&&&&&&&&&&&& new subject &&&&&&&&& I also had a problem with USS8, the mouse pointer was invisible. you could pull down menus but not see a pointer. I installed an older mouse driver for a microsoft 2 button mouse and now I see the pointer under the USS8 program. good thing my mouse is switchable 2 nad 3 button P.S. I am still looking for a newer mouse driver to handle all three buttons Gregg Asherman -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Gregg Asherman (305)977-5604 work | | | | gregg@hrshcx.mkt.csd.harris.com | | gregg@hechcx.mkt.csd.harris.com | +-------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 16:35:03 CDT From: xeno@iastate.edu Subject: How can I get proper volume response under Windows 3.1? Message-ID: <9307212135.AA03638@iastate.edu> While running my GUS under Windows 3.1, the volume response is terrible. Any sound played 'softly' is nearly inaudible and any sound that is audible drowns out all of the other instruments. I know that the GUS hardware has a nonlinear response (as determined by the human ear)... but I would think that the MIDI driver for Windows would have been designed to take care of it. Can anyone tell me if there is a solution to this problem? I've downloaded the latest (2.07L?) disks and installed them with no noticeable change in behavior. If I'm missing some setting or option in the drivers window, feel free to ding me... ;) I haven't checked these windows since I upgraded to 2.07. Thanks, ---Xeno ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 10:04 GMT From: "Jonathan D. Hall" Subject: MegEm b10 Message-ID: <9307210902.AA23575@orca.es.com> Hi all, I've just downloaded megaem beta10 from epas and I'm having a few problems getting it to work. I had beta6 to work just fine, for the 10 minute demo period anyway, but I get no soud at all from this newer version. It says in the documentaion that the 10 minute demo period has been removed from this version. I thought this would mean no time limit, not no sound at all! Jon ========================================================================= Jonathan Hall University of Glamorgan Computer Assistant Department of Property & Development Studies jdhall@glamorgan.ac.uk Pontypridd Tel (0443)482135 Mid Glamorgan CF37 1DL, United Kingdom ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:49:47 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: Number of active voices Message-ID: <0096FD3D.37A39C20.15769@lsl.co.uk> > Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for > windows. How about loading the midi file and then setting the > number of voices to the number required by the midi file... In > that way a song with 6 tracks will get the maximum of 14 voices > 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can the > number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets > the number of active voices back to the original setting... Any > further comments or ideas ? Sounds a good idea - as I've said before, some patches can sound awful when played with a high number of active voices, presubably because the sampling is then far less than 44kHz. At present, the number of active voices under Windows has to be set in Control Panel, and cannot be changed without restarting Windows. I'm not sure if it would be possible to have a driver which allowed dynamic changes. I think the problem might be that any patches already loaded would need their parameters adjusting to suit the new number of voices. As a sideline, when you cache patches from a program in Windows (by passing an array with bits set for each patch you want), does it re-load all the requested patches, or just the ones no loaded already? ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 20:40:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Schaepker Subject: Ultramid doesn't work Message-ID: Hi ! I seem to be one of the only people having real trouble to get these AIL/Miles-Ultramid-thing to run. My problems are: - Ultramid [-c] installs fine with Ultrasound MIDI and digital sound TSR v1.00 Copyright ... All rights reserved. but then - no game with AIL (Dune 2, 1gate, jrob) gives any sound - Ultramid -f shows: UltraMID TSR not resident. QEMM's MFT and mem show Ultramid loaded normally. - GF166.com shows: Unable to install interrupt vector. UltraMID TSR not detected. I did install everything correct (pupdate, ultramid.ini), I hope. I use the 2.06L installation (as registration disks did not hit me yet) and the gus0034 patch, Ultramid is version 1.00 (not that 0.96 or 0.97 did anything else). I never had problems with SBOS. MEGAEM works for me since 0.08B. I tried it with any memory configuration I could think of (QEMM 6.03, Himem, EMM386) - no difference. If it matters: I have a 386-40 FOREX chipset and busspeed at CLK/4 (can't set it to CLK/5), my GUS has 1 meg. Anyone out there who can help ? Please ... Juergen -------------------------------------------------------------------- - Internet: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 09:09:06 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 21-Jul-1993 0909" Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <9307211309.AA02364@us2rmc.bb.dec.com> >From: PWRJAM01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA >Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #48 >Message-ID: <01H0SP1NSW2A8WW5N0@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA> > >Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for windows. How >about loading the midi file and then setting the number of voices to the >number >required by the midi file... In that way a song with 6 tracks will get the >maximum of 14 voices 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can >the number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets the number >of active voices back to the original setting... Any further comments or >ideas ? For some reason, I was dropped from the digest for a few days, so I don't know the context of this posting. However, one problem with the idea presented here is that a single track can easily have multiple simultaneous notes within it. So unless you analyzed the MIDI file, you could not blindly assume that tracks==(max notes). Further, one might well have lots of tracks (maybe 1/patch), but not have them all going simultaneously. Burns ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 14:19:24 EDT From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #49 Message-ID: <9307211819.AA08412@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 9:14:24 CDT > From: "Anibal A. Acero" > Subject: SC2 demo hangs > Message-ID: > > I can't get the sc2_demo to do anything; it hangs before any graphics are > displayed, or any music sounded. I've tried booting clean (only himem.sys > + GUS setup stuff in config.sys and autoexec.bat; I probably even tried it > without himem.sys) with and without SBOS installed > > Setup: > GUS w/ 1MB of memory (ULTRASND=220,1,1,12,5) I know that SC2 will not upload samples properly if you are using 8-bit DMA channels (though the game didn't hang on me). Try changing your DMA's to 5, 6, or 7. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 07:58:40 +0200 > From: PWRJAM01@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA > Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #48 > Message-ID: <01H0SP1NSW2A8WW5N0@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA> > > Ok, this is just a thought for anyone writing midi players for windows. How > about loading the midi file and then setting the number of voices to the number > required by the midi file... In that way a song with 6 tracks will get the > maximum of 14 voices 44khz, if the song has more than 14 tracks then only can > the number of voices be reduced. When the song is finished is sets the number > of active voices back to the original setting... Any further comments or > ideas ? > Determining the number of voices a MID needs is more complicated than just looking at the number of tracks since each track can control any combination of the 16 MIDI channels, and each channel can have up to 128 notes going at once. Furthermore, the Windows drivers currently do not let you change the number of voices without requiring a restart of Windows. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 00:31:09 EDT > From: Stephen Ferguson > Subject: varying MIDI results > Message-ID: <9307210439.AA17265@orca.es.com> > > Robert Lee DeRaud wrote about getting different results with .MID > files depending on which player he was using. I've noticed this myself. > I thought I was just hearing things until I tried the file jump.mid > which is quite a good version of Van Halen's Jump. Playmidi snapped > crackled and popped. Media Player played a very flat sounding version > and I thought "this isn't such a great Midi file". Then I tried > WinJammer's Player and was very impressed. I loaded up Patchman to > see what was going on. Media Player only loaded about 7 melodic patches > (and not all the right ones) where WinJammer loaded all the proper patches. > Why? When a MID "crackles and pops", turn down its overall volume. For example, use -v100 with PlayMIDI. It's always a good idea to never play anything at max volume on the GUS to avoid clipping, since clipping on the GUS results in the signal wrapping around the scale instead of flattening out on the floor or on the ceiling. (This is due to the use of signed data.) As for the differences between Media Player and WinJammer, you probably have WinJammer bypassing MIDIMapper. If you enter MIDIMapper and enable all 16 channels for the Ultrasound setup, then you shouldn't hear a difference between Media Player and WinJammer any more. Phat. ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Mertens Subject: Various things Message-ID: 1) I have heard that Star Control 2 (the real version, not the game) had some bugs with GUSs loaded with 1 meg memory. It only makes sense, then, if the demo does too. 2) Ultramid- gotta be carefull with what you jam into memory. Ultima7, for example, requires 560 or so k free. add himem.sys, doublespc.bin (for dos 6), and Ultramid (but NOT Qemm, 386Max, or EMM386 because Ultima7 requires the processor be in real-mode at startup)... w/o UMB drivers, 560k is impossible. But you have to have a UMB driver that will support YOUR chipset in real mode... To make a long story short- how does Ultima 7 sound with the modified drivers? 3) Setting maximum channels for MIDI files: harder than you'd think. Unlike MODs, 669s, etc., MIDI tracks can contain a LOT of notes to be played simultaneously, and they frequently do. So you've got to count not just the individual tracks, but the amount of notes being played in ALL of the tracks at any given time. Then, you need to see how the instrument sounds- if there's a slow decay upon release, that will have to be calculated as being on, even if it was only played for a short time in the MIDI file. This means you've got to refer to each and every patch that the MIDI file calls for, and either calculate just what cuts off when, or have a predefined table, which makes things even more awkward when you start adding new patches. If you're still up for the job though, go to it! :) ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:56:43 +0000 From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: varying MIDI results Message-ID: <0096FD3E.2FCC0D60.15771@lsl.co.uk> > I thought I was just hearing things until I tried the file > jump.mid which is quite a good version of Van Halen's Jump. > Playmidi snapped crackled and popped. Media Player played > a very flat sounding version and I thought "this isn't such > a great Midi file". Then I tried WinJammer's Player and > was very impressed. I loaded up Patchman to see what was > going on. Media Player only loaded about 7 melodic patches > (and not all the right ones) where WinJammer loaded all the > proper patches. I can understand DOS programs and Windows programs managing to sound different, since they use different drivers, but surely Media Player and WinJammer should sound similar. The only thing I can think of is that Media Player always uses MIDI Mapper, while WinJammer has the choice of MIDI Mapper or direct GUS MIDI Synth. So is Media Player's rendition being ruined by a peculiar MIDI Mapper setup, e.g. with some channels disabled, or with some patches mapped into other ones. The MIDI Mapper setup supplied with the GUS has channels 11 to 16 turned off for one thing, so any .MID using these won't play correctly until they are enabled. ----------------------------- End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #50 ************************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 10:59:57 MST From: kmcfaul@sedona.intel.com (Kirk McFaul~) Subject: Win 3.1 GUS Mixer control of Line-In and CD-In Message-ID: <9307221759.AA11411@pima.intel.com> Hello fellow GUS-ers, I've been listening to the net and enjoying my GUS, but I've finally come across a question I've found no answer to : - In Windows how can I control my GUS's Line-In and CD-In volume ? The GUS Mixer on the v2.06 disks has no control of the CD input on the card, and there is simply an ON-OFF switch for Line-In control. I've recently added a CD-ROM to my system, and I'm trying to get the audio connection to the CD-ROM tied into the GUS. The Line-In, with its simple ON-OFF switch is just too loud in the ON position compared to the .WAV and .MID controls which have volume sliders. I hope there is an applet like my old SB-Pro had that let me adjust all these sources under s/w control. Any help would be appreciated ! - Kirk McFaul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 16:00:42 CDT From: Michael J Stumpf Message-ID: <9307222100.AA10165@tamsun.tamu.edu> To the author of Mega-Em.. I had a rather long message posted to the digest, but it was on that day a week or so back that the digest barfed. This message described why I'm suggesting what I'm suggesting, but here is the long and short of it. Please do not make mega-em crippleware. You are hurting your own market by doing so. If you do make it that, I will never buy it from you. If you don't, I would consider doing so. Maybe it's just me, but I will not purchase a crippled program, partially it's just the way I think. I guess to consolodate most of my thoughts into one statement, How many of you would pay $50 for sbos? I thought so. ------------------------------ Date: (null) From: (null) In addition I have added a /L switch to EMUSET to enable the Ultrasound Line in. Usefull for Sound Blaster owners. There are two other new switches for EMUSET. /CO1 and /CO2. These are designed to allow Mega-Em to be used in conjuction with a real MPU-401 interface. Could be useful for DOS based MIDI sequencers. I have no means to test these, so they may not work. Look for megem09b.zip on ARCHIVE.EPAS.UTORONTO.CA in /PUB/PC/ULTRASOUND/SUBMIT. Jayeson "Fingers Crossed" Lee-Steere leesteer@tartarus.uwa.edu.au ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #51 ************************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis FTP mail server: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.)