Ultrasound Daily Digest Sat May 29 00:32 Volume 3: Issue 58 Today's Topics: 48Khz [GUS] and Casio DH100 Digital Horn GUS: Telemart -> South Africa GUS from Telemart (Was: GUS in South Africa?) GUS probs with 7th Guest New Midi File Patches out of tune Sampling Frequency Some stuff Strike Com and GYS subscribe Voice recognition software and systems Where's the beef..??? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 May 93 9:52:46 PDT From: gabrielj@sfu.ca Subject: 48Khz Message-ID: <9305281652.AA13427@fraser.sfu.ca> Ok, in regards to Chris about not being able to play back at 48Khz, the daughtercard WILL allow you to record and play at 48Khz. BTW, I love your mids. Are you familiar with Led Zepplins' Rockn' Roll? If so I wonder if you could fix the midi file's instruments. I think the music has been sequenced properly but the instruments are screwed. Remapping them to match the gus's patch set would be wicked. If you're interested, I'll upload it to epas. ly ------------------------------ Date: 28 May 93 13:20:40 GMT From: ts@tkk.tele.fi (Teemu Stewen) Subject: [GUS] and Casio DH100 Digital Horn Message-ID: ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard Has anybody tried to use GUS with Casio DH100 Digital Horn? I have tried and noticed two problems: 1. DH100 sends the original blowing power in the velocity field of Note On midi message and after that the subsequent changes are sent in Channel Aftertouch messages (many). Example: Note On 80 Aftertouch 81 (blowing harder) Aftertouch 82 Aftertouch 83 Aftertouch 82 (blowing softer) Aftertouch 81 Aftertouch 80 (and so on...) (until...) Aftertouch 01 Note On 00 ( = Note off) GUS (Windows drivers) didn't interprete Aftertouch messages (Obviously these should be interpreted as Channel Volume messages in this case). 2. It seems that Windows and GUS is too slow to get all midi information that DH100 sends because usually Note Off messages are not caught (Patch Manager, WinJammer etc.). I have even tried it with 486DX2 50 MHz machine. Maybe GUSORGAN (it didn't lose Note Off messages, but understands only Note On and Off messages) or some other DOS program has the potential capacity to interprete also these messages. I hope that somebody could help me because it would be nice to use DH100 (my only midi controller) with GUS. -- Teemu Stewen, ts@tkk.tele.fi X.400: G=Teemu ; S=Stewen Telecom Research Centre, Finland PRMD=trc ; ADMD=mailnet ; C=fi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 11:43:08 +0300 (EDT) From: Lasse Hero Subject: GUS: Telemart -> South Africa Message-ID: <199305280843.AA05217@mdata.fi> rogan@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Rogan Alan Hastings Dawes) writes: >I see that they are advertising the GUS for about $127-00 and >then say > >that I must add 6% for an international order. Does that >include postage? > >If not, any idea of how much postage is? Don't know about South Africa, but DHL shipping to Finland is $25. For three cards it's $48... And no, that 6 % doesn't include postage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 93 11:24:11 GMT+3:00 From: iddos@math.tau.ac.il Subject: GUS from Telemart (Was: GUS in South Africa?) Message-ID: <9305280824.AA07378@virgo.math.tau.ac.il> rogan@concave.cs.wits.ac.za asks:} >I was wondering if anyone} >could tell me how Telemart's international ordering works.} Telemart could tell you, promptly and by fax, as they did for me. I faxed them questions similiar to yours, then my credit card order. It then took the GUS 7 days to reach here (Tel-Aviv, Israel) by regular airmail parcel post (which I prefered over the slightly more expensive air shipping they offered). -- Ido Amin iddos@math.tau.ac.il ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 93 22:15 GMT0BST-1 From: Paul Kokis Subject: GUS probs with 7th Guest Message-ID: Hi. I'm having sound problems when playing 7th Guest using my GUS thru SBOS. The PCM sampled speech plays in 'sections', and sometimes misses entire chunks. I've been advised that this may be due to the amount of processor time used by GUS for SBOS - however, I'm not so sure as I get the same type of sound fault when playing any VfW clips that have sound, and (in Windows) I'm *not* using SBOS. Increasing MSCDEX buffers doesn't seem to make much difference. BTW I'm using a 486DX2/66 with a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM, so it's got me baffled! Any ideas? Regards, Paul (Scratch) ------------------------------ Date: 29 May 1993 01:36:01 -0500 (EST) From: STU_JABIRCHE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Subject: New Midi File Message-ID: <01GYQAG5M2SI8Y5EL1@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> I found a great mod that reminded me a lot of the Boesendorfer mod. It is called the Dimples Rag. It was straight Acoustic Grand Piano, so I unleashed mod2mid on it and got some really good results. If you liked Boesendo.mid, you will probably like this one, too. The mod writer is apparently Doozer and the name of it is Dimples Rag. Enjoy. I did. -=Marc=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 93 16:32:01 +0200 From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg) Subject: Patches out of tune Message-ID: <9305281432.AA23569@hermes.cs.utwente.nl> Dear John (and others), I've found that two release 2.01 samples are out of tune! These are Calliope.pat and Carillon.pat. The way to solve this problem (as you might know) is to edit default.cfg: 83 calliope 100 -5 113 carillon 100 +7 This way Playmidi will correctly play the two instruments. But I often play midi-files from within Windows. Then this little trick doesn't work anymore. The solution is very simple: edit the two patches! In Calliope.pat, find 9D FD 02, and replace it with E0 FD 03 In Carillon.pat, find C0 B6 06, and replace it with E0 7A 04 (and restore default.cfg to its old state.) I got these new patches by modem, but what would have happened if I didn't have a modem? Then I would still be waiting! I have sent the registration-card to Logitech in Switzerland. Are we - European buyers - on your mailing-list? Keep up the good work (and send me the 3-D drivers!). Marc Kloosterman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 93 10:40:59 MDT From: Stuart Yoshida Subject: Re: Sampling Frequency Message-ID: <9305281641.AA03955@elektra.fc.hp.com> chrisw writes: >> 1. When recording any sound source, the better the resolution you have >> (i.e., the higher the sampling rate), the better the recording >> results. Also, you won't always be recording from the GUS. I plan >> on recording external audio input, and therefore a 48KHz sampling >> rate is very desirable. > >But what are you going to play it back on? I mean, unless you've got 48khz >recording AND playback I'm not sure I see the point. Actually, to tell you ^^^^^^^^ The playback DAC's are at 16-bit resolution. At 48KHz sampling rate you're getting more information in those 16-bits. Therefore your file size will be larger, too. >the truth I've never understood the 48kHz rate anyway. 44.1kHz should be >enough to capture all audible frequencies, shouldn't it? (Though the >neighbourhood cats and dogs might be really impressed!). My feeling is >that most microphones and speakers are going to start rolling off pretty fast >above the 20kHz mark anyway. > >[...Other stuff deleted...] The reality of the sampling rate is that even at 48KHz you're not really getting much information at 20KHz. The *MINIMUM* number of samples needed to capture a 20KHz signal is 40KHz, but we're talking a pretty crude signal reconstruction. So in practical use a 48KHz sampling rate is better because it gives you *OVERHEAD* to capture more of the characteristic overtones of the signal at, say, 10KHz to 12KHz (where a lot of stuff is going on). > >Chris. -- Stuart Yoshida Internet: yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com Voice: (303) 229-2324 ------------------------------ Date: 28 May 1993 19:22:51 -0500 (EST) From: STU_JABIRCHE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Subject: Some stuff Message-ID: <01GYPXAEA5YQ8Y5CYH@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> I use a Soundblaster Pro Midi connector with no modifications and have recorded in Cakewalk with few problems. The only thing that is strange is after I listen to what I have recorded, I lose the sound, but I can save what I have, close Cakewalk, reopen it and load what I had, then record another track. I think I eventually solved that problem, but I don't remember how. I haven't had access to a midi keyboard in awhile, so I couldn't play with it. I couldn't get Strike Commander to work with a SBPro, so I returned it. When I try to use Composd 669, I can write a whole song, but when I go to save it, my comp locks up. I don't know if it's because of the ruthless memory requirements or the coexistence of soundcards in my machine, but I had to delete that program as well since it was pretty useless that way. -=Bubba=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 12:25:34 -0700 From: Eric N. Liao Subject: Strike Com and GYS Message-ID: <199305281925.AA02795@aerospace.aero.org> Whoops, should read Strike Com and GUS. Will the new Miles driver work with Strike Commander. Someone posted that Origin demoed SC with a "patch on a patch", implying some non-standard configuration necessary to make ends meet. Also, to the guy with SC and SB Pro, I couldn't get SC to recognize the SBPro, either. I was at Egghead, and their SBPro2.0 sounded exactly like a Soundblaster. Anyway, I noticed that if you type "dir *.adv", there is no driver for SBProFM (either 22voice2-op, or 20voice4-op.) Maybe Origin just forgot? I tried putting the SBPro.adv file (from Monopoly) into the SC directory, but that did nothing. Apparently, the SC install program refers only to a pre- compiled library within itself, so even if you DELETED all the .adv files, SC install doesn't complain. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 07:28:29 -0300 (ADT) From: Shadow Of Fear Subject: subscribe Message-ID: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Directly from his dark office on the top of a dark Tower..... \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------ Date: 28 May 93 19:00:00 GMT From: robertson@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil (Joel Robertson) Subject: Voice recognition software and systems Message-ID: <28MAY199314005652@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil> ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard There has bee interest lately in voice recognation software and systems so I have put together this list of products that I have found so far. Future postings will include reviews and additional information provided by the manufacturers and readers of IBMSND-L and comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard. Please email me any additions or corrections. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. In Cubed A Windows program to allow voice control of windows commands. A demo was available on sony.com (192.65.137.2) in /pub/comp.binaries.ms-windows/v3 as in3demo.zip. The demo has a limited set of pre defined commands which cannot be changed. Price: $179.00 Command Corp, Inc. 3675 Crestwood Parkway Deluth, GA 30136 404-925-7950 2. Voice Blaster I saw Voice Blaster in a Software Etc. store. From reading the box, it seems to be a DOS TSR whics reconizes and executes DOS commands. Price: Unknown Covox, Inc. 675 Conger Street Eugene, OR 97402 (503) 342-1271 3. Microsoft Sound System Microsoft Sound System comes with a windows program called Voice Pilot which allows voice control of windows commands. This program only works with the Microsoft sound card. Microsoft Sound System includes sound board, software, and microphone. Price $289.00 Microsoft Corp One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052-6399 800-426-9400 4. Telaccount Speech Recognizer Works woth Windows 3.1 and DOS programs. Works with SoundBlaster and most other Windows-compatible sound boards. Voice lookup program included. Price $69.00 Telaccount Inc. 421 Anthwyn Road Narberth PA 19072 215-664-2410 5. Listen for Windows, Version 1.0 Listen for Windows is a continious voice recognition package that is trained to individual voices. Developers can use the included software to create custom voice input applications. Includes Listen software, Speech Comander (an 8-bit ISA sound recognition card), and a headset microphone. It will work with other sound boards installed. Reviewed by PC Magazine, Vol 12 No 11, pg 49. Price $695.00 Verbex Voice Systems, Inc. 1090 King Georges Post Road Bldg 107 Edison, NJ 08837 800-275-8729 908-225-5225 908-225-7764 (fax) 6. Recognizer A beta release Recognizer was available in Library 15 of the Windows 3rd Party C Forum (WINAPC) as recog.zip. The prescribed beta test period expired on 15 March 1993. Therefore, no further distribution by me is possible. Further information may be availble on the Speach Recognition Forum on the Aristosoft BBS. Price: Not Established Aristosoft, Inc. 510-426-6703 fax 510-426-5641 BBS Joel Robertson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Robertson | Internet: robertson@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil (131.45.15.18) Robins AFB, GA | CIS: 70675,160 or | >INTERNET:robertson@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 93 20:08:09 PDT From: brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu (Brian Huddleston) Subject: Where's the beef..??? Message-ID: <9305290308.AA01693@ccnext.ucsf.edu> This is getting scarey! Nothing new has gone up on EPAS for a while. The inactivity is doesnt seem right. Is anyone out there making anything for the GUS? Any info to wet our whisle's (sp?).....:-???? brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V3 #58 ************************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP sites: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/msdos/ultrasound Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (UNIX, OS/2, GUS-MIDI, etc.)