The Dodge Challenger Message Board

Lads Im going through a rough bout at the moment, ever since coming back from the Nats my Dodge Fever(Moparitis) has gotten worse, I spent money at the Nats and I thought that would be enough but it wasnt, so can you believe it I just went and bought a 383-6 intake manifold!!!

I know I know I shouldnt have but I couldnt help it......Dave reckons I will need to spend another 1000 to buy the carb set up but I had to satisfy the hunger that is Dodge Fever( Moparitis).

1970 383-6 R/T Challenger here I come!!!

Thank God. You have seen the light and now suffer from the same affliction we all do!! Welcome to madness!

You are like my wife. You do the opposite to what I advise.

dave-r wrote:You are like my wife. You do the opposite to what I advise.

What did you advise Wayne to do? Let me guess please. 4 barrel Holley 750 possibly a Street Avenger 770 and a Eds dual plane RPM intake, TTI 1 7/8 headers, dual exhaust. Or a Pro-Charger stroked 432 with EZ INDY heads? Looks Like Wayne went old school!

Dave told me I would end up paying an extra 1000 to get the six pack up and running....I guess I can buy it piece by piece, I think there is a street avenger on that 440 Eddie, I might clean that up and take off the holley thats on it already until I can afford the six pack set up eh??

dave-r wrote:You do the opposite to what I advise.

Isn´t there a saying about raising kids (no offence) that "It is NOT what you say that counts, it is what you do!"?
If I remember it right, you are running a six-pack setup yourself, Dave?

RedRaven wrote:Dave told me I would end up paying an extra 1000 to get the six pack up and running....I guess I can buy it piece by piece, I think there is a street avenger on that 440 Eddie, I might clean that up and take off the holley thats on it already until I can afford the six pack set up eh??

Dave is of course, right. But hey the eye candy and the feeling of that six-pack opening up is a feeling we should all tell the other patients in the sanitarium!!! Yes, it will cost a lot but this "hobby" or as Wayne put it "Fever" isnt about saving money. You havent even got to the different hood you will need, and the cable/bell crank, The other fiberglass and steel parts, ect..

is there a special fuel pump for 6 pac engines? just courious?my mopar guru swears by those 6 pac set ups,humm wayne now i might start looking

The factory used a standard fuel pump as used on 4barrel 440's I think. I used a Carter Street Hemi Pump with 3/8 fuel lines, of course the six-pack lines to the carb neck it back down. I also used the fuel vapor seperator which routes the return line back to the tank. An electric pump would be superior. Tuning the six-pack can be difficult in modded engine apps, especially when you use a big cam. Dave will tell it better than I can. Thats why I went with the Pro-Max set up. It offers a much easier user friendly tunable carb that doesnt require drilling the metering block to enrich the fuel circuits. It uses Holley Jets and drilled passages in a billet metering block to facilitate tuning.

yea but a six pac sounds cool!

I told Wayne he should replace the existiing Holley on his 383 with a 750 double pumper.
It will bolt straight on and it is plenty for that 383 of his. More than enough actually.

A six pack will just be a pain in the butt to get working right. I know because I have tuned a few of them.

I probably under estimated the costs of fitting the carbs and linkages too.

The car and the rest of the engine needs so much. The money could be better spent.
The engine is in poor repair. Mechanically the car is showing its age. The electrics are a mess. The paint is chipped, scratched and faded....and he wants to put a brand spanking new six pack on it.

I hear ya Dave.....what can I say your right...but I got Dodge Fever dammit!!!

hey ya know i have a 383 if ya dont useit , you can always unload it to me

RedRaven wrote:I hear ya Dave.....what can I say your right...but I got Dodge Fever dammit!!!

Oh sounds so familiar. Guess who just picked up pile (~100kg) of suspension and steering parts from customs? Cost including shipping and taxes was nearly same what I paid for my 1970 and 1974 Challengers together back in 1999. Which of course means that those cars were cheap and therefore in desperate need of new parts, such as suspension.

dave-r wrote:The car and the rest of the engine needs so much. The money could be better spent.
The engine is in poor repair. Mechanically the car is showing its age. The electrics are a mess. The paint is chipped, scratched and faded....and he wants to put a brand spanking new six pack on it.

That story sounds familiar... One of the first things I bought for my car was a T/A-scoop! At that time, my car was in a desperately need of a total repair and I bought a T/A scoop!

christer wrote:

dave-r wrote:The car and the rest of the engine needs so much. The money could be better spent.
The engine is in poor repair. Mechanically the car is showing its age. The electrics are a mess. The paint is chipped, scratched and faded....and he wants to put a brand spanking new six pack on it.

That story sounds familiar... One of the first things I bought for my car was a T/A-scoop! At that time, my car was in a desperately need of a total repair and I bought a T/A scoop!

................you bought a T/A hood while your car was in disrepair...thats just crazy

christer wrote:That story sounds familiar... One of the first things I bought for my car was a T/A-scoop! At that time, my car was in a desperately need of a total repair and I bought a T/A scoop!

Oh my, now this is turning to confessions thread! I bought few years ago early style flat hood from 70 SE, sidescoops from 71 R/T, go-wing, chin spoilers and partial chrome trim set from same 70 SE as they were all locally for sale with good price. All collecting dust in garage while parts still missing include 8 3/4" rear, complete brake setup etc...

Wayne I would make sure your engine is good shape before bolting on that six-pack. As Dave stated, it wont run right unless it's healthy. This is a perfect opportunity to remove the engine, build it up with new rings, bearings, 440source heads, then the mighty six-pack! Oh, and you'll need a good healthy tranny to handle those high revs that 383 is capable of.

airfuelEddie wrote:and you'll need a good healthy tranny

He has probably gone home with one of them on occasion after a night out as a lad.

dave-r wrote:

airfuelEddie wrote:and you'll need a good healthy tranny

He has probably gone home with one of them on occasion after a night out as a lad.

Ya see thats the benefits of not drinking alcohol....I even been to bangkok and not been fooled by the trannys!!

It will be a while before I can get all the bits and afford to rebuild the engine Eddie so no worries for now!!!

RedRaven wrote:It will be a while before I can get all the bits and afford to rebuild the engine Eddie

Yes it will take time if you keep spending your money on shite you don't need.

Listen to Dave Wayne. Get your parts, plan to get the engine healthy first. Get the wiring done right or you wont be able to enjoy any of it. Running/walking/ jogging will be what you do if you dont heed his advice. (No joke, get a small fire extinguisher keep it with the car at all times) I have 2, 1 inside the car 1 in my shop. I check em frequently. I have very personal experience in this area that I wish I could erase from my memory Butt, I sympathize wayne, I have the 'fever' too.. it's tough to think straight sometimes, and I make plans and purchases without thinking ahead. Power is a tough habit to control. And stay away from Shites and sunnis

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sorry, coudn't resist. FWIW mine doesn't even look good sitting still

dave-r wrote:

RedRaven wrote:It will be a while before I can get all the bits and afford to rebuild the engine Eddie

Yes it will take time if you keep spending your money on shite you don't need.

I agree with that.

dave-r wrote:

RedRaven wrote:It will be a while before I can get all the bits and afford to rebuild the engine Eddie

Yes it will take time if you keep spending your money on shite you don't need.

Very true Dave it just came up cheap and couldnt let a bargain go by....to splash on the whole thing carbs and all would be silly I agree but I havent done that.

I did have a small ABC extinguisher but I have replaced it with a 9kg C02 extinguisher!!

Yeah Wayne smart move on the fire squirter. I got to watch my 70 SuperBird 440 SixPack car, engine compartment go up in flames ! It was not a joyous experience. There is nothing wrong with getting parts ahead of time especially if you can get a deal on them!

airfuelEddie wrote:I got to watch my 70 SuperBird 440 SixPack car, engine compartment go up in flames !

Jesus Eddie thats really put things in perspective.....I dont know what to say...a 70 Bird 440-6.....man I that would finish me altogether!!!

No one wanted those 'Birds back in the day. They were just old cars.

I would still advise you fit a 750 double pumper on your 383 Wayne. Easy to tune and suitible for a mild to wild 383.

But if you fit a six pack that would work too. Just cost three times as much.

dave-r wrote:No one wanted those 'Birds back in the day. They were just old cars.

I would still advise you fit a 750 double pumper on your 383 Wayne. Easy to tune and suitible for a mild to wild 383.

But if you fit a six pack that would work too. Just cost three times as much.

I have a street avenger on that 440 Dave would that do??

I will do the six pack later down the road....some day!!