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I think the lads in this were under the affluence of inkerhol....or is it influence of alcohol....Its Ivor and Dave!!

airfuelEddie wrote:The last set of pics looks especially "harrowing" and "terrifying". Having what appears to be a "randy" Jerry Garcia on one's backside. Or as Dave puts it, "an uphill gardening dirt packer"!!

Who are they Wayne? They have matching sneakers. In my old neighborhood growing up as a kid. That would have been a sure fire way to get your "ass" kicked up and down the street, in front of your parents. (Sorry for the language as I was referring to a "jackass" )

I have it from a reliable source thats its Ivor and our Dave Robson...

airfuelEddie wrote:Who are they Wayne? They have matching sneakers. In my old neighborhood growing up as a kid. That would have been a sure fire way to get your "ass" kicked up and down the street, in front of your parents. (Sorry for the language as I was referring to a "jackass" )

Say it isnt so...

This I cannot do....its so!!

airfuelEddie wrote:Say it isnt so...

At least you guys get a "reach around". We dont get that lucky over here!

I dont know if hes read this post yet...do a quick edit on your post or he will give you 5 days in the hotbox for slagging his sneakers...collhand luke style!!!

airfuelEddie wrote:Who are they Wayne? They have matching sneakers. In my old neighborhood growing up as a kid. That would have been a sure fire way to get your "ass" kicked up and down the street, in front of your parents. (Sorry for the language as I was referring to a "jackass" )

Thats OK Wayne, Dave will just smack me around when I get to Santa Pod! I've never had my arse kicked by a British man with red sneakers. Should be an Honour!! Dave I was just Kidding! Please go easy on me. I've been banned from every other MoPar site so....please be gentle!!(I'm not digging my grave deeper am I?)

Thats OK Wayne, Dave will just smack me around when I get to Santa Pod! I've never had my arse kicked by a British man with red sneakers. Should be an Honour!! Dave I was just Kidding! Please go easy on me. I've been banned from every other MoPar site so....please be gentle!!(I'm not digging my grave deeper am I?) Some Men You just can't reach!(Cool Hand Luke)

Yes Ivor was feeling very lonely that night and took me by suprise.

Lucky I had my kevlar underpants on.

I'm glad for you too Dave. Igor looks pretty confident in his abilities. I still say he looks a little like Jerry Garcia,(R.I.P.) from the grateful dead. Or maybe Ron Jeremy who played in Killing Zoe,(my favorite movie).

Ron Jeremy was in a "Celeb" version of Big Brother over here last year.

Ya know Ron Jeremy if he had a mopar it wouldnt have a six pack...but Id say it would have one big piston!!!

dave-r wrote:Ron Jeremy was in a "Celeb" version of Big Brother over here last year.

And able to take on 12 Camaros at once!

Eddie hows about a picture of your bad self.....I know what D looks like....

youve been through the pain of seeing me....

I'll see what I can do. In the meantime picture Ron Jeremy, bald, 160 lbs. from the waist up of course! Here I am asking these fine young women where the mens room was. I told them my name was Oliver Klosoff, and I was from Russia making a movie.

Time to Rock! Notice the Bank behind me. I'm always broke. I am truly a 'speed addict'.

Wayne, you would really like my brother Tom, he was in the U.S. Marines years ago, and just got back from Afghanistan and Iraq. He is a bodyguard. He loves Thailand and Korea. He is very quick with his hands and feet. He drinks straight whiskey and smokes Camel non-filters and snuffs Copenhagen,(the Marines did that to him), he trains with many different fighting styles and weapons. He's a nut! Not socially acceptable and cultured like me. BTW, check out his artwork on his leg,(damned convict).

Eddie...Lookin Good my man....slick!!!

Heres a pic of my in Ayutthaya Thailand a couple of months back...Iknow the shame of it...what a pose...couldnt help myself!!!

Yeah those shin bruises look familiar...

Mine turned into horrible varicose veins eventually. Had to have them stripped out the whole length of both legs.

That hurt.

dave-r wrote:Yeah those shin bruises look familiar...

Mine turned into horrible varicose veins eventually. Had to have them stripped out the whole length of both legs.

That hurt.

Jesus that sounds really sore man...Is that what I have to look forward to??

RedRaven wrote:Jesus that sounds really sore man...Is that what I have to look forward to??

Possibly. I had a few big veins anyway but when they get bashed they can get really bad. My right shin came up really swollen once and never went down again. Then I started getting itchy exema patches on my shins and toes. This is caused by the blood that leaks out of the vein walls.
The aching legs I could take but the itching redness was just too much.

I had to get one leg done at a time. About a year apart. Takes at least 4 weeks to get back to work each time. Its not that bad a proceedure. Although thinking about it.....actually it is.

They do it by making an incision in your groin, side of knee and ankle. Also many smaller incisions to cut off the branches away from the main vein along the whole length. Then they thread a wire down the whole length of the vein from your groin that has a large steel ball on the end. As they pull the ball through (I think they stand on the table with one foot braced on your balls and pull like hell ) it strips the vein out with it.

Once out they tie up any bleeding bits left over and stitch you up.

It is a very crude proceedure.

The painfull bit is that you have to start walking right from the next day. Every stitch pulls. It makes your eyes water I can tell you. But you have to walk correctly so that blood that normally came up that vein is pumped up by muscle action through the deeper veins. It also has to develop new return paths.

The good bit is you get to wear a pair of stockings. You only need to wear one actually but it is a good excuse.

I flew to Dublin for a long weekend two days after my first leg was done. It got me out of walking around the shops but I managed to struggle around the pubs at night.

Stockings...haha...you in stockings!!!

Eddie you seeing this.......Roll on Santa Pod!!!

dave-r wrote:

RedRaven wrote:Jesus that sounds really sore man...Is that what I have to look forward to??

Possibly. I had a few big veins anyway but when they get bashed they can get really bad. My right shin came up really swollen once and never went down again. Then I started getting itchy exema patches on my shins and toes. This is caused by the blood that leaks out of the vein walls.
The aching legs I could take but the itching redness was just too much.

I had to get one leg done at a time. About a year apart. Takes at least 4 weeks to get back to work each time. Its not that bad a proceedure. Although thinking about it.....actually it is.

They do it by making an incision in your groin, side of knee and ankle. Also many smaller incisions to cut off the branches away from the main vein along the whole length. Then they thread a wire down the whole length of the vein from your groin that has a large steel ball on the end. As they pull the ball through (I think they stand on the table with one foot braced on your balls and pull like hell ) it strips the vein out with it.

Once out they tie up any bleeding bits left over and stitch you up.

It is a very crude proceedure.

The painfull bit is that you have to start walking right from the next day. Every stitch pulls. It makes your eyes water I can tell you. But you have to walk correctly so that blood that normally came up that vein is pumped up by muscle action through the deeper veins. It also has to develop new return paths.

The good bit is you get to wear a pair of stockings. You only need to wear one actually but it is a good excuse.

I flew to Dublin for a long weekend two days after my first leg was done. It got me out of walking around the shops but I managed to struggle around the pubs at night.

Man, I couldn't read anymore of Dave's leg procedures, it sounds like HELL! I see a lot of men wear those things because of the painfull varicose veins they have. My mother used to work at CBS records here in Terre Haute, it was a production factory job making of course, vinyl records which are now obsolete. They moved to Georgia in 1976 but she would get those veins and had to have them surgically removed twice. That 'Temple' is beautiful Wayne. My brother loves all the ancient culture and discipline and of course the working 'class' women that country is 'famous' for

airfuelEddie wrote:it was a production factory job making of course, vinyl records which are now obsolete.

They were never obsolete in my house Eddie and modern club "DJs" couldn't work without them.

I keep Diana's old Linn SP12 record deck resonably up to date. It is used a lot still. We have 1000 LP records on a shelf along the upstairs landing.

Me too Dave I still got my records at home....most of my mates sold their records for smoke when we were teens....spanners...

dave-r wrote:

airfuelEddie wrote:it was a production factory job making of course, vinyl records which are now obsolete.

They were never obsolete in my house Eddie and modern club "DJs" couldn't work without them.

I keep Diana's old Linn SP12 record deck resonably up to date. It is used a lot still. We have 1000 LP records on a shelf along the upstairs landing.

yea ive still got a good collection of vinyl to but my record player shit itself so ive got to find another im sure a good 1 will show up but ill never get rid of the vinyl digital sound just isnt the same
cheers ian

I used to have all the old stuff, Led Zepplin, Mamas and Pappas, The Byrds, Jimi Hendrix, Beatles, Iron Butterfly,ect.. all gone. I GAVE them away to 'friends' whom I cant remember anymore. Hey it was the sixties/seventies man, those 'things werent worth anything then. I was an idiot.

RedRaven wrote:Eddie...Lookin Good my man....slick!!!

Heres a pic of my in Ayutthaya Thailand a couple of months back...Iknow the shame of it...what a pose...couldnt help myself!!!

Wayne, you're a natural for Prison Work. If we had worked the cellblocks together they would riot. It would be wonderful! The inmates would also get upset. I 'finally read all of Daves surgery, poor fella has been thru hell!

I would have gone though all of that tens times over if it would have stopped what happened to me earlier in the year. Pain is one thing. I can cope with that. Having your brain damaged is another.