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PostPosted: 01 Mar 2007 15:05
by Eddie
What is the average snowfall in merry ol England Dave? Or is there such a thing?

PostPosted: 01 Mar 2007 17:52
by dave-r
Not much in the way of snow here these last few years mate. It very much depends exactly where you live though. The weather here can be totally different every 20 miles or so. They tend to get deeper snow in the midlands which is well away from the sea.
High ground gets it of course. But even there not as much as it used to.

There were three cars trapped in snow drifts a few miles south west of me on high ground at the beginning of the year. They had to be rescued. But 400 yards either side of them there was no snow at all!!

When I was a kid in the '60s we had very deep snow. Only as far back as the late 70s when I was courting and getting married for the first time we had snow two feet deep as a matter of course with twice that at times. With drifting you sometimes opened the door to a wall of snow and had to dig yourself out. Temps used to get so low then my car battery froze up once. We all used to say there was a new Ice Age coming.

But I haven't seen more than a few inches for years. The wife agrees with me on that for some reason? :? :oops:

It just does not get that cold any more. Every month for the last five years has been a new record high temp for that month. The summers are getting hotter and hotter.

At the moment we should be in blizzards. But all the plants and spring flowers are out and the birds that roost here for the winter are flying off.

Things are not right......

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2007 16:24
by Eddie
Yet people still deny the global warming thing! Did you know one of the largest "polluters' or contributors to the greenhouse effect,(warming the surface), is the friggin hospitals!! At least when I attended an auto airconditioning class the instructors informed us Hospitals release the freon,(refrigerant), directly into the atmosphere and are allowed to do this for disinfection purposes. Yet an auto garage must have the air conditioning equipment's valves turned off while stored on the wall in it's tool holder! $10,000 per offense! per valve.You could be shutdown by the govt. from fines after a surprise inspection. There are no global standards and the global elitists will always find a loophole. We are Doomed! :mrgreen:

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2007 18:06
by dave-r
airfuelEddie wrote:Yet people still deny the global warming thing! Did you know one of the largest "polluters' or contributors to the greenhouse effect,(warming the surface), is the friggin hospitals!! At least when I attended an auto airconditioning class the instructors informed us Hospitals release the freon,(refrigerant), directly into the atmosphere and are allowed to do this for disinfection purposes. Yet an auto garage must have the air conditioning equipment's valves turned off while stored on the wall in it's tool holder! $10,000 per offense! per valve.You could be shutdown by the govt. from fines after a surprise inspection. There are no global standards and the global elitists will always find a loophole. We are Doomed! :mrgreen:


You have got to be kidding?

Well. This is a topic that (again) might stray into politics so i will try to be careful here. In fact I just deleted most of what I have just written.

As far as I know it is illegal to disperse refrigerant into the atmosphere in any way in every country signed up to an international agreement. It is not a greenhouse gas. It destroys the ozone layer that protects us from radiation and skin cancer.
The problem is that your country does not tend to sign up to international agreements. Which is why it pollutes more than any other country put together apart from China which is catching up fast and so far only "thinking" of cutting pollution.

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2007 21:55
by dave-r
This was a funny (or worrying) thing I heard the other day.

Our spring is comming earlier and earlier every year now. So the spring flowers are coming out earlier and earlier too.

On New Years day we had some flowers come out. One day earlier and they would have sprouted in completely the wrong year!! :shock:

The sad thing is many animals and insects rely on plants coming out at the right time. Also the animals that feed on the things that depend on the plants.
So bees are coming out too early, you get a cold snap, and they die or move away. So fewer plants get fertilised.

We have an animal here called the hedgehog? I don't think you have them in the US? They are lovely little things covered in spines that eat the garden slugs and snails. Well they are dieing in their hundreds at the moment. The warm weather has brought them out of hibernation but there is no food for them. It is very sad.

Last week we had a pair of frogs breeding on my driveway. What was that all about? That can't be right can it?

PostPosted: 08 Mar 2007 0:06
by Eddie
Yep, the biggest polluters,(money makers), are the ones that dont want to change. I dont discuss politics either Dave, I hate politics and politicians as well. I do the best that I can when it comes to mother earth.

PostPosted: 08 Mar 2007 2:32
by Jon
We had our coldest stretch since my family moved here 14 years ago. The Snow last year also. Maybe we are getting your weather Dave. Thanks :x :wink:

PostPosted: 08 Mar 2007 9:06
by dave-r
Fair swap I say Jon. :D

Hey Eddie! Ford are selling off Aston Martin! or at least a part of it?

Maybe we should throw some money together and see if we can buy a slice? :s009:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6428999.stm

PostPosted: 08 Mar 2007 15:32
by Eddie
I would do it if my pockets were deep enough! Absolutely love those cars and think they should go to a successful investor,(s). It's good Ultz the chief engineer is going to stay with them. If FoMoCo would let rational people run their company instead of family they would probably have been successful. Lido Iaccoca was their best man, and you see what they did to him? Maybe if enough of us Challenger Message board members pitched in we could buy it!! Aston not ford,(we arent stupid!) :biggrin: Good lookin kid there Jon, does she like the snow? I did when I was young but now I hate it and can't wait till spring.

PostPosted: 08 Mar 2007 16:52
by dave-r
airfuelEddie wrote:Good lookin kid there Jon, does she like the snow? I did when I was young but now I hate it and can't wait till spring.


The kid on the left looks a little cold to me. :shock:

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2007 20:14
by Eddie
Dave, Aston Martin is a done deal. A group of U.K. investors and the Saudi Royal that started the F-2? series? over in the middle east bought it! The formula series I am referring to is the next step down from the big boys,(F-1). Happy to hear it. I love those cars. Also the latest on the DCX deal is the Germans stockholders want to dump the Chrysler name from DCX, as they think it's "dragging their image" down. Bummer! Hope it gets worked out.