[Adrian Worman]

http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34666

[dave-r]

Shhhh!

[drewcrane]

Once you go BLACK you never go back

[dave-r]

Once you go BLACK you never go back

You talking about cars or women?

I'm having a look at it on Sunday.

[Adrian Worman]

Once you go BLACK you never go back

You talking about cars or women?

I'm having a look at it on Sunday.

I was hoping you'd say that

[Tim]

Once you go BLACK you never go back

You talking about cars or women?

I'm having a look at it on Sunday.

Is not having your clothes reeking of petrol starting to get to you Dave?

[drewcrane]

Once you go BLACK you never go back

You talking about cars or women?

I'm having a look at it on Sunday.

Is not having your clothes reeking of petrol starting to get to you Dave?

Well I am talking cars here,you will see

[Adrian Worman]

Once you go BLACK you never go back

You talking about cars or women?

I'm having a look at it on Sunday.

................well?.......we're waiting.......tap,tap,tap

[dave-r]

I arrainged to see the car Sunday. To get there I also arrainged to stop overnight on Saturday at Tim's place in the West Midlands which is only two hours drive away from this Chally.

I never even got out of Newcastle.
The fan/accessory belt on the Grand Cherokee 4.0 decided to jump forward on the pulleys and tear itself apart. I was just sitting in traffic and had been taking it easy due to Saturday lunchtime congestion.

There was enough belt left to get me home after I cut the loose bits off.

The local Merc/Chrysler-Jeep place does not stock any of the parts. They order them in as needed from a central store near you Adrian. Butthey don't have any belts in stock. So i have to wait 5 days for one to come from Germany where the UK spec ones are built (the belt and pulley arraingment is different to the US ones).

On top of that the MOT test is due on it at the beginning of March so I need to get it tested before then.

So I have given up. I know someone else is looking at that Challenger this weekend and a few others have expressed interest.
I am quickly loosing interest to be honest....

[Adrian Worman]

Thats a bad news day then Dave, I just bloody hate it when stuff I've planned and am really lookin' forward to goes tits up
That car looks like its gonna be kicking around tho' mate, its sort of cheap but it still is a lot of money for a car that needs sorting, just my opinion......... but I think my own Chally is a pile of shit, and I am constantly amazed at the prices E bodies fetch
Go and buy that Vette, make Diana happy and if you really want to you can sell it come summer for fat wedge and start again, wot you reckon

[dave-r]

The later model corvettes are pretty hard to sell. I have been watching a few of them and they go unsold time and time again. The classic ones and the convertible versions sell OK but slowly unless they are REALLY cheap. But from the C4 - up the hardtops and targa tops do not sell well at all.
So if i do buy one I had better be ready to hang onto it for a few years.

[drewcrane]

The later model corvettes are pretty hard to sell. I have been watching a few of them and they go unsold time and time again. The classic ones and the convertible versions sell OK but slowly unless they are REALLY cheap. But from the C4 - up the hardtops and targa tops do not sell well at all.
So if i do buy one I had better be ready to hang onto it for a few years.

Yes the same problem here Vettes are not only hard to sell but certain years are just dirt cheap,

Like the first vipers they are cheap and hard to sell,

Yea Dave unless you get in to one cheap,you have to keep it for a long while ,,

and drive the crap out of ,to get your money,s worth

, they are very nice cars indeed,

just not my style

It looks like you are gonna have to keep looking for that special toy

[dave-r]

The guy who snapped up that black 72 Challenger probably paid around £9K for it and has put it straight on ebay for 12K. There is a word for people like that. Cunt.

[Adrian Worman]

Yep

[redgum78]

Yeh that isn't right.

It would be a different story if he had put some money into it or if he hung onto it for a couple of years and the market had improved. To simply on sell it for an extra 30 odd % is simply taking advantage of the poor bugger he brought it off.

[dave-r]

Apart from myself there were several other people that were trying to scrape the money together to buy that. People that would have loved to own it but didn't dream they might be able to afford a Challenger.

The guy that bought that is not only taking advantage of the sellers position, he is also kicking honest working class guys that could have afforded to own it.

I don't normally allow bad language on this board even though there is no swearing filter in operation. But I really feel pissed off about this.

[Adrian Worman]

I have to agree with that sentiment Daveman, making money out of a club is taking the piss. A bonafide trader is well within his rights to buy and sell as he see's fit to turn a decent profit and cover business overheads. When a guy goes and ingraciates himself into a club environment to find rich pickings from people he knows are out to help each other for little or no profit, even freebies in some cases, then that is totally wrong. Other people manage to make a living from this "hobby" and still be a part of the community without preying on others.
You say exactly what you think Dave, honest and cut straight to the point, thats why we listen to you

[dave-r]

Exactly mate. People form clubs to help each other out. Not rip each other off.

[dave-r]

I have to admit I am getting fed up with working on Mopars. I have done it for 30 years and the fun has gone out of it for me. I just see working on cars as a hassle these days. Doing it for "fun" suddenly seems impossible to me. There is no fun is working hard with aching joints in a freezing cold garage just to build a car that is going to probably break down on the 500 mile round trip to any events worth going to. I am tired all the time. I get stressed.
I am even getting bored with Challengers to be completely honest.

You know, with the price of fuel being what it is, it costs me more to spend a weekend at our Nats meeting than it would to have a week somewhere warm and sunny in Spain, Itally or France? We have gone without a decent holiday for years at a time just so I can do stuff to the Challenger or to drive it anywhere.

This is why I have been looking at C5 Corvettes. I have never seen myself as a Corvette owner. In fact I have called Corvette owners "bald mid-life crisis" cars or "Gay-boys" cars in the past. Never thought in my wildest dreams I would want one. Except maybe a mid-60s example which are so far from my price range anyway i may as well just wish for a nearly new DB9.

But in my 52nd year I find myself just wanting a smart - well handling car that will turn heads without years of hard labor on a concrete garage floor. Something the wife could take turns driving on a long trip. Something you know is likely to start when you turn the key and need little else than an oil change every year.

Yes indeed i must be feeling old to be thinking like this. But with everything I have been though these last few years I have come to re-assess the way I live. I just want an easy and affordable life from now on. i have paid off the overdraft and the credit cards. The wife is taking partial retirement and a bit of her lump sum to pay part of the mortgage off. So hopefully we will not have any more worries about anything except staying healthy and where to go on holiday every year.

I am completely dis-enchanted with the Mopar hobby. I feel like I have woke up from a dream.

[Adrian Worman]

Everything has to run its course does'nt it? Maybe this is just one thing that has stopped and made you think a bit mate. I still say go and buy the Vette, a 6speed ragtop with a Borla exhaust like my mates got, and have a blast in it. Yeah, I know it won't be too easy to unload and you'll see a loss on it but it won't cost you in parts and repairs, modifications etc. It'll do some decent gas mileage too,its still a very exciting sports car and reliable to boot.................and I never thought I'd be driving a hairdressers BMW on Sundays in my mid forties either
P.S. don't forget to spend the change on a bike tho' will ya

[dave-r]

Well. It's a funny thing but the Corvettes I don't go for don't sell. Three Corvettes that I wanted have sold straight away before I had a chance to see them.

So the low mileage ones with few or no faults sell pretty quick.

[dave-r]

I might be wise getting an automatic too. The last two times I drove a manual any distance my left knee gave me loads of grief. It's been a while since I tried though.

[RedRaven]

Dave go and buy that black 72, give the guy 8k for it and then administer the wildest beatin possible to this looser and then invoice him for 4k for said wildest beatin.......... walla he gets his 12k on ebay.........
yes Im am a genius.....

Do we know who this guy is?

[Adrian Worman]

Wayne................you are mental

[RedRaven]

Wayne................you are mental

Your too kind Adrian ............















but you are right .......

[redgum78]

Dave go and buy that black 72, give the guy 8k for it and then administer the wildest beatin possible to this looser and then invoice him for 4k for said wildest beatin.......... walla he gets his 12k on ebay.........
yes Im am a genius.....

Now theres an idea! Win win. With lateral thinking like that you should be running your country!

When a guy goes and ingraciates himself into a club environment to find rich pickings from people he knows are out to help each other for little or no profit, even freebies in some cases, then that is totally wrong.

[/quote] Thats even worse than it 1st sounded.......This bloke does deserve a 4K beating. I have some friends that would do it for less than that....travel costs might be too much from Oz though.

[RedRaven]

It says on the MMA board that the Challys sold again on ebay

[Tim]

It says on the MMA board that the Challys sold again on ebay

Bought and sold by a Stockbroker maquerading as a car enthusiast.

Poor show.

[RedRaven]

It says on the MMA board that the Challys sold again on ebay

Bought and sold by a Stockbroker maquerading as a car enthusiast.

Poor show.

The guy who bought it on ebay or the guy who sold it on ebay Tim ?

[dave-r]

Well I am definitely looking for a low mileage C5 Corvette now.

This seems a good price for one with only 11,000 miles on the clock. I like them in silver too.

http://www.desperateseller.co.uk/findac ... dor=103881

But then I realised that ALL their cars have 11,000 miles on the clock.........

What the hell are they playing at?

Tim these are just down the road from you I think?