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Pro Touring 1970 Challenger

PostPosted: 22 Jan 2010 22:09
by dave-r

PostPosted: 22 Jan 2010 22:36
by drewcrane
that car is friggin awesome , so is the price tag :s006: ,but a very nice car ,i might have put a big block in it, but thats just me :s007:

PostPosted: 22 Jan 2010 23:44
by Adrian Worman
Exactly. A 540inch alloy Hemi is special. A 6.1ltr Hemi is just production car fodder.Big coin deserves big figures. Lovely tho' innit? :)

PostPosted: 23 Jan 2010 9:38
by ianandjess
shit hot but i dont go much on the rims
cheers ian

PostPosted: 23 Jan 2010 11:32
by Glen Miller
not much for the rims either but nice ride, 100k isnt much compared to the build cost mine will prob owe me near twice that when I finish

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2010 11:30
by Jimiboy
Just so awesome machine! :thumbsup: :D

I really don't fancy those rims either...
But i would not turn her down as a gift... :mrgreen:


Are 4-link & these axles a good choise on a road machine?
(Is there any kit's available for our rear axles?)

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2010 18:14
by Eddie
Hey Jimi--If you would take a ride in Drew's Challenger thru the Colorado Rockies at 95+ MPH zig zagging thru BMW's, Porshes and SRT's with a bladder full of strong Coffee you wouldnt even care about the lightweight adjustable stuff. :lol:

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2010 19:44
by Jimiboy
LoL

But Drew runs what? I have forgotten totally.. Is it stock rear end on his or what?

But really... is there any weld on kits for our axles? Is'nt it really for straight forward useage 4 link with straight axle?

What is the word for this...? like, vette & other "sports" car... got "splitted" rear end, whats the word?

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2010 20:45
by dave-r
Drew uses stock 383 suspension but with QA1 adjustable shocks. i was amazed at the ride quality myself.

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2010 1:44
by Moparman1972
There are several weld-in kits. The ones I can think of off the top of my head are the XV motorsports 3 link kit, and the Reilly Motorsports 4 link kit that is on this pro touring car. Fabien (Fbernard,) has the RMS one in his car right now. These are both weld-in kits that use coilovers.

I think it would have looked better with a TA hood, but then it would have looked very similar to XV's orange challenger.

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2010 3:53
by drewcrane
dave-r wrote:Drew uses stock 383 suspension but with QA1 adjustable shocks. i was amazed at the ride quality myself.


yea pretty much stock, i do have tubular uca,s but that is about it , and the front and rear are about 1 inch lower than stock, also i run 17 x 8 in wheels on all 4,s, im not even running a rear sway bar :s017:

Re: Pro Touring 1970 Challenger

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2010 18:56
by fbernard
Some parts can be identified without doubt on the pictures:
- RMS AlterKtion Front-end with power steering and single adjustable QA1 shocks.
- RMS StreetLynx rear suspension kit, with QA1 shocks (mounted at the rear of the housing (they're supposed to be mounted at the front, as per the instructions, but that may help get some clearance with the exhaust),
- US Car Tool frame connectors
- big-bore Wilwood master cylinder with hydroboost kit.

- some version of a hydraulic clutch (the reservoir is hung above the hydroboost unit)
- two different sets of wheels :ashamed: (chrome on the right, black on the left) For pictures only??

- No torque boxes, no reinforcements in the original spot welds.

- what looks like two sheet metal shields for the fuel lines, on the frame connector and frame rail, I don't see the need for those unless there's a fuel filter (or pump?) to protect somewhere on the line...

- what looks like a 3" TTI exhaust line which fits!! almost looks easy...

The text mentions a rear sway bar. Luckily, there is none, because it would be useless anyway.

I'm a little curious about the way they routed the emergency brake lines. I can see why they would do it (with the original routing, the cable goes through where the frame connector should be...), but having the cables going under the frame like this is not the way I'd prefer to do this...

I'd love to know how (and where from) this airbox get fresh air in...
My guess is either
a) a sufficient hole in the inner fender
b) a much to small hole in the radiator support

Just like anybody, I hate to see an air filter suckin air in from a heated engine compartment, but there are things I won't do!

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2010 19:07
by Moparman1972
I think the different pictures of the wheels show chrome spider covers that can be put on. Look at how deep the channel is in the spokes, and look how it disappears with the chrome pictures.

And why does no one do Challengers justice when making custom consoles? What a plain blob. No style, no curves.

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2010 19:29
by fbernard
Moparman1972 wrote:And why does no one do Challengers justice when making custom consoles? What a plain blob. No style, no curves.


I'd rather take the engine apart and reassemble it than tackle this kind of fabrication job. I would have probably chosen leather covering on the console, but I'm not sure I'd do something better. I would have gone for more screen real estate, maybe gauges or something to break the vast plain surfaces though. Or just avoided the body color thing.

Let's face it, the best asset of the original console on the Challenger, is that it is the original design.
It's too low (if you can rest your elbow on it, you're at least 10 years away from a driver's license), too hard (not much soft material there), you can't add instruments to it without it looking like a toddler went mad with a drill and glue (even stock add-ons like the 8-track tape player look out of place), and you can't put much in the storage compartment (provided the door stil shuts, that is, since the damn thing probably has half of its screw tabs broken and remains in a partially yawning position when it should be shut - creaks all the time of course). Not to mention, there really is no good place to lay your right hand on it (no big deal, since it should be either on the wheel or on your passenger's thigh, but hey, sometimes you don't need to hold the wheel with both hands, and, er, well, no need for that either...)

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2010 19:57
by drewcrane
fbernard wrote:
Moparman1972 wrote:And why does no one do Challengers justice when making custom consoles? What a plain blob. No style, no curves.


I'd rather take the engine apart and reassemble it than tackle this kind of fabrication job. I would have probably chosen leather covering on the console, but I'm not sure I'd do something better. I would have gone for more screen real estate, maybe gauges or something to break the vast plain surfaces though. Or just avoided the body color thing.

Let's face it, the best asset of the original console on the Challenger, is that it is the original design.
It's too low (if you can rest your elbow on it, you're at least 10 years away from a driver's license), too hard (not much soft material there), you can't add instruments to it without it looking like a toddler went mad with a drill and glue (even stock add-ons like the 8-track tape player look out of place), and you can't put much in the storage compartment (provided the door stil shuts, that is, since the damn thing probably has half of its screw tabs broken and remains in a partially yawning position when it should be shut - creaks all the time of course). Not to mention, there really is no good place to lay your right hand on it (no big deal, since it should be either on the wheel or on your passenger's thigh, but hey, sometimes you don't need to hold the wheel with both hands, and, er, well, no need for that either...)


and one cup holder. i guess the passenger can hold theres ,

yea new vs old,it does seem that when ever someone does the dash or the console from scratch it always looks like a hardware store creation,wood,plexi glass, or they step up and do some exotic wood thing, some look cool but some look like wood shop projects they did in the 6 th grade,

the origonal consoles your right they dont offer very much for comfort, or function, but the sure look cool, like the seats ,mine were back breakers but they look cool,i had to get those replaced asap,

i think back in the an old road and track said the "the interior reminded him of a jet cockpit" lol :s024:

PostPosted: 30 Jan 2010 19:16
by fal308
What's the transmission in it? I thought tmanual for the SRT8 was a six speed?

PostPosted: 30 Jan 2010 22:51
by Moparman1972
Probably a Keisler 5 speed. The 6 speed manual wasn't available until last year, I think?

PostPosted: 31 Jan 2010 12:06
by fbernard
Moparman1972 wrote:Probably a Keisler 5 speed. The 6 speed manual wasn't available until last year, I think?


Yes, it's probably a Keisler to avoid hacking the crossmember and trans tunnel too much. I didn't recognize it on the pics, tere are no clear shots of the transmission tailshaft housing, but most modern aluminum case transmissions look the same to me.

PostPosted: 31 Jan 2010 19:03
by fal308
:s012: That's what I get for perusing a forum after being awake for 28 hrs straight. I was thinking factory transmission, forgot all about the Kiesler