Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 01 Apr 2012 14:36

patrick wrote:All I can say Eddie is, completely awesome! It was really great talking with you, tonight!

Thanks Pat,, great talking to you too! Especially since our birthdays fall a few days apart,, glad I'm only 39 yeah,,39!! :lol:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby fal308 » 01 Apr 2012 19:15

Yeah Eddie but metric years don't count :lol: :s012:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 03 Apr 2012 13:39

fal308 wrote:Yeah Eddie but metric years don't count :lol: :s012:

Yeah those metric system junkies have me cornfused! :lol: I just got off the phone with Dick Ross,(Firm Feel). I will receive the rear end parts in a few weeks. H.D. shackles, "Hemi" Leaf springs, U-Bolt kit, rear sway bar kit, lower shock plates. I'll post pics when I get it all.
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Adrian Worman » 03 Apr 2012 16:35

Are you gonna use his torsion bars Eddie?
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 03 Apr 2012 16:41

Adrian Worman wrote:Are you gonna use his torsion bars Eddie?

Yes, Adrian, all Firm Feel stuff, reinforced K-member, tubular upper control arms, reinforced lower control arms, Moog poly suspension rebuild, FF front sway bar,, Freaking huge torsion bars, Heavy Duty strut rods,, ectt :lol: I'll be doing the welding on the K-member and lower control arms. I need to get a C02/Argon gas bottle, flowmeter, line and filled gas bottle. 415.00 bucks just for that stuff! But gas is MUCH better than flux cored wire. It allows deeper penetration and clean looking welds. Flux cored wire is for construction/farm junk! :lol:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Adrian Worman » 03 Apr 2012 18:01

I'd like to use some of their stuff, may still go with a power steering box from them and I'm about to order a fr sway bar kit and uca's and lca's stiffening plates. My mate has bought loads of brake pads from them and says that they are incredible, fit std size calipers and the custom compound gets good reports.
Easy to trust a company that specialises in our products and races themselves, never heard bad shit about them.
I normally give any welding to a fabricator mate of mine, he always uses a TIG and does bootiful work, don't know about his penetration tho, bit too personal for me :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 03 Apr 2012 18:11

Adrian Worman wrote:I'd like to use some of their stuff, may still go with a power steering box from them and I'm about to order a fr sway bar kit and uca's and lca's stiffening plates. My mate has bought loads of brake pads from them and says that they are incredible, fit std size calipers and the custom compound gets good reports.
Easy to trust a company that specialises in our products and races themselves, never heard bad shit about them.
I normally give any welding to a fabricator mate of mine, he always uses a TIG and does bootiful work, don't know about his penetration tho, bit too personal for me :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, Dick Ross and his brother are die hard MoPar Road Racers. I trust their stuff and it's track proven with a lot of their parts on the One Lap Green brick from MoPar Action magazine. I also have gobs of their stuff on my '70' R/T,, love it! I wish I had a nice TIG welder but the cost of that stuff is outrageous!
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 26 Apr 2012 16:25

It's all here! Cya in a few months! :lol:

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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 26 Apr 2012 16:44

After checking the leaf spring part numbers I found these springs are actually 1967-79 B-Body springs! I called Dick Ross and they are gonna ship my E-Body springs and take care of the shipping. Great service eh! :D
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 10 May 2012 23:34

I installed the Dana today.

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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 10 May 2012 23:35

The leaf springs are non-biased.(Better for handling) both have 6 leaves. 160 lbs./inch

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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby dave-r » 11 May 2012 7:37

Way hay! :s004:

Looks as cool as a polar bears knackers mate. 8)
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Adrian Worman » 11 May 2012 8:36

Nice stuff mate, whole assembly looks really impressive :wink:
Spring rate sounds perfect, is the car sitting lower now or is it stock height still?
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 11 May 2012 13:10

Thanks Dave and Adrian, I think it should sit as the stock ride height. I'll install the sway bar and E-Brake cables in a few days but the brackets for the sway bar are much wider than the frame rail. :roll: 1/2 inch! :|
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Adrian Worman » 11 May 2012 14:01

I can't imagine those people will make a sloppy fitting piece for no reason, is it to allow for dimensional differences due to poor manufacturing, a feature Mopars seem to be good at :!: , or even custom axle housings, ride heights etc :idea:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 11 May 2012 20:03

Adrian Worman wrote:I can't imagine those people will make a sloppy fitting piece for no reason, is it to allow for dimensional differences due to poor manufacturing, a feature Mopars seem to be good at :!: , or even custom axle housings, ride heights etc :idea:

AHA,, mystery solved. They sent me the wrong brackets, my frame rail measures 2 1/4 then tapers to 2 3/16 Dick is going to send me the correct E-Body brackets. I was going to fabricate some steel plate shims but....I decided to call em. :wink: These brackets are almost 2 1/2 inches in width to 2 5/8. They are paying for all shipping too. Thanks Dick!
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 11 May 2012 20:07

I also need to get a pair of wheels fitted for some rubber. I have almost no knowledge on what type or compound rubber I should get? Any suggestions? I will outfit only two 17X8 Mustang GT SN-95 "Bullit" wheels. It's all I can afford right now. :)
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby drewcrane » 12 May 2012 15:38

Tyres..........I go with a good tire but not a name brand per say but something like a Falken, or Hankook,they have all the sizes ,and reasonable prices,I am not sure if you want to roll the 1/4s and front fender adjustments,but what is the off set of those muzzzie wheels?

you can start with a 255/40 17, but to get what I have 275/40 17 I have a 4 inch off set ,and I am close to getting the 71 cuda project on the ground and will be doing some wheel/tire fitment soon...........

BTW your rear looks awesome :wink: with a lisp............ :mrgreen:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 12 May 2012 16:38

drewcrane wrote:Tyres..........I go with a good tire but not a name brand per say but something like a Falken, or Hankook,they have all the sizes ,and reasonable prices,I am not sure if you want to roll the 1/4s and front fender adjustments,but what is the off set of those muzzzie wheels?

you can start with a 255/40 17, but to get what I have 275/40 17 I have a 4 inch off set ,and I am close to getting the 71 cuda project on the ground and will be doing some wheel/tire fitment soon...........

BTW your rear looks awesome :wink: with a lisp............ :mrgreen:

Drew, I gotta tell you,,,I laughed me arse off when I read that! :lol: Cool, I'll take the wheels into the tire shop June 1st when I get paid. I'll ask them for Hankook or Falken. The wheel offset on 94-2004 Mustang wheels is 5.720. Keep in mind I'll have custom hubs designed for the extra offset on the fronts,(.75) and the Dana was built with an extra .75 per side to center the wheel in the wheel tub. No Drew I really dont want to get into any more bodywork than I have to. I'll sacrifice a wee bit of tread for simplicity. Also the car will sit at a stock or near stock ride height. I will use a Milodon RoadRace Oil pan,,(Dougs or TTI headers with 2.5 or possibly 3" exhaust),,,. I live in an area that has very bad roads,, lots of railroad tracks,,potholes, roadkill,,, Fat women,,,Deer ectt :lol:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 06 Jun 2012 21:55

Nitto NT 555 245/45 ZR17 fitted 2 wheels for the rear. After placing the wheels on the car I read Right/Left on the tires so of course I had to switch em round. :lol:

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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 06 Jun 2012 22:01

They look great,, keep in mind the assend hasnt recieved the fuel cell yet so it's gonna sit up a tad high. Another pic, I got special lugnuts for the wheels,,from the advice of Andy Finkbeiner,, I used Ford truck 1/2-20 acorn or radiused ended lugnuts. Ford wanted 230.00 for a set of 20 GT Mustang lugnuts!! No way dude! These can be had at any Napa, AutoZone or tyre shop for 1.50 a piece,, they are also open ended and I counted 16 turns until seated. In other words for a 1/2-20 fastener you should have a minimum of 10 turns for thread engagement. Cool!

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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby drewcrane » 07 Jun 2012 3:24

keep in mind the assend hasnt recieved the fuel cell yet so it's gonna sit up a tad high.

AND YOUR PHAT ARSE! :wink:

Is that a god dam bloddy horse wheel on a fukin mopar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!thats an out rage :s011: :s012: :s013:

You sure 245,s are big enough?
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Adrian Worman » 07 Jun 2012 8:41

They look the absolute dogs bollocks Edd, good choice mate :mrgreen:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 07 Jun 2012 14:51

Thanks Drew&Ade,,yeah, that damned jackass will be removed soon, I have solid alloy wheel plugs coming. Drew, I thought about what you use, I think I'll go a bit conservative for now, then maybe later I can use a bigger tire. :lol:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby drewcrane » 07 Jun 2012 14:57

Eddie wrote:Thanks Drew&Ade,,yeah, that damned jackass will be removed soon, I have solid alloy wheel plugs coming. Drew, I thought about what you use, I think I'll go a bit conservative for now, then maybe later I can use a bigger tire. :lol:

Yea you will burn em off anyway,and yea if you can get a plain centercap that would work,

those tires will work, but you will find it will effect your final drive ratio a bit even with O/D
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Adrian Worman » 07 Jun 2012 15:05

Have you measured the height of the tire to see how close it is to a 15" on your R/T?
I reckon it'll be ok at 245, Nittos are pretty grippy, I used em on some of Carols old M3's and they last too, way better than Yoko-onos :wink:
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 07 Jun 2012 15:09

Ade, I havent measured or compared them, they look pretty darned close to the 15" cop car wheels and tires. The manual transmission I plan on using is the new LGT SS 700 from keisler it's rated at 700 Lb. Ft. has a .68 overdrive and is scheduled for release this Fall. I paid 300.00 for 3 tires,(2 new Nittos and 1 used Nitto spare plus 20 lugnuts), I thought that was pretty good deal, yes.? ( OK I just measured the height of the total wheel&tyre combo,, the Cop car 15" wheels with rubber measure 24" the Bullitts with the Nitto's are 25") so a difference of just 1 ")
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby dave-r » 07 Jun 2012 15:11

Those 245 tyres will be about a half inch less diameter than a typical 235/60/15 muscle car tyre.

A 255/45/17 would have been the same size.
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 07 Jun 2012 15:16

Cool, thanks Dave
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Re: 72 Challenger

Postby Eddie » 07 Jun 2012 15:42

Here Ya go Drew,, no more phord jackass! :lol:

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