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'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2002 20:47
by Jens (Jj)
Hello to all Challenger drivers !

I am a new member at this message board. This is my ´72 Challenger Rallye. It is an Export Model ( I - Code ), 89.000 Kms, original paint, numbers match..... a real survivor. Are there some other export model owners ? I try to find out, how many they build for export outside US/Canada. Best regards, JJ

´72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2002 20:48
by Jens (Jj)
I´ll try to ad a picture......

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2002 21:06
by Jens (Jj)
Here it is:
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'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 5:04
by Hans (72challenger)
Hey Jens, welcome on the board. Hope you will enjoy this messageboard; you will, I can tell you! Your car looks very nice and complete from the picture. As you said a real survivor. What's the color, honeydew?

How long do you have this car already? I never saw it around... (you're german isn't it?) while I already have seen a lot german mopars. You ever visited any shows in Holland or the german mopar meet this year? I didn't saw your car but maybe next year. Once again you're car looks nice and shiny.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 8:05
by Jens (Jj)
Hi Hans,
thank you very much.
The color code is HT6, some call it T6. You are right, the car is located in south germany. I will try to go to some shows and meetings next year. I will go to Carlisle, PA.

I have seen pictures of your ´72 340 on this board, it is very nice. Are you from Holland ?

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 9:03
by Alex (Alex)
That's original paint? WOW that is a real nice car! How about a shot under the hood and inside?

Cool ride!

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 9:47
by Dave_R (Roppa440)
Is that the original top as well?

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 10:23
by Christer (Christer)
Are there any percentage figures on how many of the Challengers that were built for export?
(Welcome to the board)

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 10:51
by Hans (72challenger)
Yes Jens, you're right. From Holland. Talking about a shot under the hood...what's under it, a 340? Maybe see you some time at a show, I Want to take a look at that car.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Oct 2002 11:59
by Jens (Jj)
Hi all,

the original paint looks better on the picture. There are some small scratches and spots, at a closer look. But for a 30 years old paint it is in good condition. The vinyl top is original, too.
The original interior is green, the carpet is original, the small paper stickers under the carpet show: "Westpoint 1972 Pepperell 1667 G F8 Green....."
Rebuild 340 4bbl., rebuild 727, all numbers matching. I will ad some more pictures, soon.

There are no records how many Challengers are build for export outside US/Canada (I-code cars).
Chrysler Historical has no records, too. I believe they build only a few hundred from 70 to 74 for export. How many still exist ? Who knows.

Regards, Jens

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 24 Oct 2002 18:32
by Alex (Alex)
Found a build sheet?

I really like the colour man!

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 25 Oct 2002 8:11
by Jens (Jj)
Hi Alex,

yes, I found the build sheet behind the back seat, between the seat and the trunk. It is in near mint condition. I ad some pictures...
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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2002 8:21
by Dave_R (Roppa440)
That sack cloth under the seats is falling apart on my car. That is one very nice Challenger you have.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 25 Oct 2002 8:31
by Alex (Alex)
Awesome ! what a great complete car! where did it come from? did you import it?

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 25 Oct 2002 15:11
by Jens (Jj)
Thank you very much.

The car came at the end of 1971 to europe directly from Chrysler Co. and was then kept in a heated garage the last 25 years, this helped to keep this condition and there are only 89.000 Kms (~55.000 miles) from sunny weekend driven on the odometer (original !).

There are a few very strange things at the car. This car has Recaro front seats. It is exactly the same vinyl/cloth combination like on the rear seat. It looks original and the Recaros are from 1971 ! Another one is, it is a Radio/Antenna delete car and it has a dealer installed swiss 8-Track AM/FM Radio (oh, I love those 8 Tracks).

Best Regards.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 28 Oct 2002 3:33
by Dave C (Davec)
Very sharp car Jens. Interesting color combo. What are the differences of the export models from American spec cars? I assume the speedometer is in kilos per hour. What else? More photos please. I will probably never see one of these in life.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 28 Oct 2002 13:10
by Jens (Jj)
There is a blue Chrysler label/sticker on the door post, showing: Vehicle for Export

The front turn-signal lens is clear not orange, there is an orange bulb inside, so it flash orange.

The speedometer is in K.P.H. showing original kilometers/mileage. There are some more Export things on it.

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PostPosted: 28 Oct 2002 14:09
by Jens (Jj)
This is the vin tag:

N42 - N85 - V6X - 26 - EN2
M21 - M25 - M42 - N23 - N41
H31 - J25 - J52 - J54 - L25 - L31
V1X - I - B51 - C16 - C56 - G35
HT6 - B6F6 - 000 - 820 - E01486
E55 - D34 - JS23 H2B 1321xx

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2002 23:53
by Dave C (Davec)
Very nice! Here's hoping you never have to replace any of those components.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2002 5:21
by Jeff Maxwell (Redchalleng
What a great car! Would you mind posting a picture of the Recaro seats? I'd like to see what comfortable seats look like inside!

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 22 Nov 2002 20:13
by Roel Bester (Roelb)
Hi jens, I also had a '72 export in South Africa, which I sold when I moved to the Uk. Same as yours, export label, 2 buildsheets, 68000km.
I am actually trying to buy the car back, as yours it is a survivor with full documentation
Roel Bester
Norfolk

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 22 Nov 2002 22:40
by Jens (Jj)
Hi Roel,

the export models are very very rare. I believe only a few still exist in original (survivor) condition.

If you know where your Challenger is located and if you have the chance to buy it back, do it fast.

I am trying to locate our ´67 Camaro RS convertible (4-speed, KPH speedo, export model...) we sold in 1976 ! It is a long time ago I know. I heard a few stories from the other owners, but I could not find out yet, if the car still exist. If I have a chance to buy it back, I would do it very fast, even if the car is in very bad condition. When I think back to 1976, I wish I have not sold it.

Jens

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 03 Dec 2002 22:34
by Rod Merten (Ragtop71)
Jens,
I have a 71 340 convertible that is an I code car. The car is a basketcase and has been since my dad purchased it about 20 years ago. I was about 13 at the time, and I think I remember the original owner saying that he was in the service stationed in Germany when he ordered the car new. If you come across any export info, I would be very interested.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 21 Dec 2002 20:23
by Jens (Jj)
Jeff, a picture from the interior and the Recaro seats.

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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2002 5:26
by Jeff Maxwell (Redchalleng
Jens, they are fantastic! I envisioned some '80's multi colored stripe thing with "Recardo" in bold letters. These look like they were built for it. The worst part of driving the car for me is the actual seat. I have new foam and covers that came from owner number 3, but I now have motivation to put them in. These aren't "factory" but non E body folks would probably never notice. They'd be especially cool in a convertible.

Thanks for posting this. I should have come to this section first!

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 22 Dec 2002 10:24
by Jens (Jj)
Jeff, these Recaros are from the 70s, it was a dealer installed option, when the car was brand new. There are only the Recaro signs on the small black levers. I am glad it is not the 80s fashion look. The seat, the backrest and the headrest is adjustable. The old foam inside is like new. It is not sagging down, I wonder it is 30 years old. It must be the great "made in Germany" quality from that time. Sitting on those firm seats is very good.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 23 Dec 2002 0:39
by Jeff Maxwell (Redchalleng
I can tell you my 31 year old foam is dead, and has been for a long time. The only time the seats were close to comfortable was when I had sheep skin covers over them. But the guy I sold it to hated them and trashed them, so when I got it back they weren't there. I can only imagine quality seats with adusters everywhere. Mine just goes up and back, or fold down to get someone in the back like everybody else!

I had dreamed of getting a Challenger hardtop for a daily driver. It would have to have modern seats and a few other upgrades that would make it more road worthy (like more insulation). Your car would look good in any car magazine, and I hope it happens!

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 10 Mar 2003 12:46
by Christer (Christer)
Hi Jens!I am curious about the VIN-plate. Can you please post the first part of the VIN?

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 10 Mar 2003 19:56
by Jens (Jj)
Hi Christer,

it is JS23H2B132xxx

I posted the complete VIN-Tag at the VIN-Tag section, have a look.

'72 Challenger Rallye - export model

PostPosted: 10 Mar 2003 21:45
by Dave-R (Roppa440)
And the 'B' in that does not mean built in Europe!

The cars I have seen that I suspect were finished in Europe have a funny VIN with some of the letters missing.