[JJ]

Does someone else think about buying the new Challenger in 2008 or whenever they start selling it ? I am interested, I just hope there is not so much plastic all over the interior. And I really hope they do not put all the recycled materials inside the trunk, it only looks like fabric, but in fact it is the same like an old door-mat, just thinner. Well, we will see. I hope the new Challenger will be a surprise for us, a good one please.

[Eddie]

I too am excited about it! My good friend has already contacted the dealer to put his deposit money down. He claims he is first in line when they release them in fall of 07. Any Challenger lover like us will appreciate this fine car when it does arrive. I just wish you could spec the car out like in the sixties early seventies, mine would be a stripper with the manual and the biggest hemi a 6.1 srt-8 engine perhaps? I just hope DaimlerChrysler builds enough of them cause the demand WILL be very high. I also want to race one just for fun even though I would probably lose.

[70 340]

I just hope that they come to Australia to be sold

[babyelephant]

Would love to have one. Anyway the taxes over here don't favour heavy cars with large engines and/or horsepower output.

Probably too expansive, but I look forward, and will concider this beauty, until we hear about the price tag.

[dave-r]

I heard a starting price of $26,995. Can't confirm that though.

[fbernard]

I heard a starting price of $26,995. Can't confirm that though.

I'm thinking about buying one too. Would be nice to have a modern one along with the 2 1970 ones. But it will probably be way overpriced here, and probably only private importations will be made. My guess is around 55 to 60k Euros, with no choice for color and options.

[dave-r]

New American cars are usually about twice the price when bought here. You yanks don't realise how good you have it.

[Eddie]

I have always said that, my overseas bros.! We truly dont know just how lucky we are! That being said, is there anyways possible to buy "second Hand" and then purchase it from an enthusiast and have it shipped over? I would be willing to act on this "scenario" ( For entertainment purposes only). I am really shocked that it would cost an enthusiast 2x!!!WOW!

[dcfox]

I talked to our Dodge dealer about the new Challenger the other day while I was looking at a 2007 Charger SRT-8.
He said it was probably going to be priced somewhere north of $50k(US)...with a $10-15k dealership add on.

At $60-65k...I'm not in the market.Especially since it's going to be next to impossible to get your hands on one unless you're extremely rich....AND...have some connections in ithe dealership.

Hate to say it...but I'd rather spend the $43k on the Charger SRT-8...drop another $5k on the Keisler 6sp conversion...and another couple grand on other mods.
Then I'd have a more comfortable car...that would probably run off and leave the new Challenger...for $10-15k less.

Not knocking the new Chally...as I think it's a beautiful car...
just decided that one Challenger in this household is enough.

[dave-r]

The problem is that Dealers will charge a lot more than Chryslers MSRP. Just because they know everyone will want to be the first to own one.

When the Viper and the Prowler first came out some dealers (depending on location) were asking up to $20K more than the MSRP for them.

I think $27K is a realistic figure for a base Challenger and $30K for the smaller Hemi. The 426 Hemi will be more again. But I doubt the MSRP will be more than $35K.

But of course if the Dealer adds $20K to those prices when they first go on sale then that would match what you were being told.

That is the way I guess it will happen. I could be wrong though of course.

[dave-r]

I have always said that, my overseas bros.! We truly dont know just how lucky we are! That being said, is there anyways possible to buy "second Hand" and then purchase it from an enthusiast and have it shipped over?

It does not work that way Eddie. It would still cost the same. Most of the charges are shipping, admin charges and 17.5% tax on the sum of the other costs.

Then it has to be tested for UK road use and all the lights etc modified for the UK regulations (such as amber turn signals and UK spec headlights amongst other minor things). This will cost a fair bit.

Then "road tax", and insurance would add about $2000 to the price on top.

So effectively a $35K US car becomes a £35K car and at the moment there is 1.94 USD to the UK POUND.

[Eddie]

Man, Dave, I didnt know it was that difficult and so expensive! You guys really do have it tough! Are performance parts the same way?

[dave-r]

Just about Eddie.

If I go to a US car speed shop here they normally just swap the $ sign for a £ sign.

It can be a little cheaper to buy parts yourself. But it can also be more expensive. Depending on postage costs.

Take a typlical order from Summit Racing.

First of all they charge a $24.00 surcharge because it is a foreign order.
They add that to the price of the part(s).
Then they add the postage to the UK.

When the part gets here the Customs people charge around £10 (it varies but I don't know why) for checking/inspecting the order so that is added to the costs and then they charge 17.5% to the total.

Lucky the dollar has dropped in value so much. I only paid $950.00 for my $600.00 headers. Only 37% more.

Usually the Dollar is stronger and the headers would have cost me $50-$60 more.

The cheapest option is to get Summit parts shipped to an address in the USA (that bit free) and get the person at the address to remove the paperwork to send seperatly, dump any packaging on the parts, and send them as "used parts" marked as a "gift".

We do not pay the taxes on gifts.

However if I was to get caught the Customs people would take a very stern view of it indeed as it is actually "Smuggling".

[christer]

and then they charge 17.5% to the total.

You lucky fellow! In my beloved country they charge 25%! (A tax called "Moms"). The "Moms"-tax was introduced in the sixties at the reasonable level or 4%. Back then, they said that it never would become any higher than that.
These politicians.....

[dave-r]

Yeah. But to be fair. There is more people in my county then there is in the whole of your country. You have to pay for your lavish lifestyle and high standard of living somehow Chris.

[Eddie]

As you explained, Dave, there are 4 seperate charges added to the original cost, buy the time you buy a U.S. part. Unbelievable! So does this all mean that the new 2008 Dodge Challenger will NOT be available overseas? Dave, I e-mailed Dodge and am going to call my cousin Mike Tom whom owns our local Dodge Dealer! Ill get the skivvy on it. I have sold 32 Dodges for them,(I kept track), thru the years.

[christer]

Yeah. But to be fair. There is more people in my county then there is in the whole of your country. You have to pay for your lavish lifestyle and high standard of living somehow Chris.

[dave-r]

So does this all mean that the new 2008 Dodge Challenger will NOT be available overseas?

It depends what the actual production model looks like. Plus it would probably be a personal import only.
The front and rear lights would have to be changed for sure. Which would be a shame.
But for the rear lights it would just need a couple of amber turn signals in the rear window like the latest TVRs.

[fbernard]

So does this all mean that the new 2008 Dodge Challenger will NOT be available overseas?

There might even be a simpler way to put it (at least for France) :
Is there a diesel version?

It also has a lot to do with possible competition within the group. I don't see DC selling a car that would compete (at least on paper) with the Mercedes line-up. Some dealers here sell the 3 brands (Chrysler, Dodge, and Mercedes)

Besides, as Dodge has just been reintroduced in France (with the Caliber), and the target population being what it is, I can't see DC trying to sell a Challenger here. We may have the Avenger though (and then, probably only with a diesel engine).

[babyelephant]

Inspired by this thread I mailed my questions about the 2008 Challenger to Norway's main dealer of Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge. Their answer sounded like the Challenger won't be imported to Europe. If I wanted one I had to get my hands on a car in the US myself and of course also ship it over myself. If any modifications is demanded due to EU-rules for registering the car, the owner's responsible here.
Naturally they didn't comment the price tag in their reply for me.

[Eddie]

So does this all mean that the new 2008 Dodge Challenger will NOT be available overseas?

There might even be a simpler way to put it (at least for France) :
Is there a diesel version?

It also has a lot to do with possible competition within the group. I don't see DC selling a car that would compete (at least on paper) with the Mercedes line-up. Some dealers here sell the 3 brands (Chrysler, Dodge, and Mercedes)

Besides, as Dodge has just been reintroduced in France (with the Caliber), and the target population being what it is, I can't see DC trying to sell a Challenger here. We may have the Avenger though (and then, probably only with a diesel engine).

I take it that France has to "introduce" as many diesel models as gas? Sorry to hear that Fabian. The reason being air pollution/smog?

[Eddie]

I e-mailed them as well. I asked if it would be available overseas.

[JJ]

If a board member in Europe is serious about importing a new Challenger, I can probably answer some questions. I did ship cars over from the US to Europe and a few cars back to the US and to Canada. There are many things to consider. Most important to get the car road legal and inspected in your country. Let me know if I can help.

[awesome123]

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[awesome123]

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