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Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2014 23:41
by drewcrane
dave-r wrote:I thought the Fiat Hellcat was supercharged Eddie? That is what I was comparing the GM engine with.

Of course Fiat have still got time to try and squeeze a bit more power out of it. And of course the Challenger is probably about 50% heavier than the Corvette.....



50% HEAVIER ?? FIFTY?? no way ,the Fiat challys are heavy but not that much ,I dont know the current weight of the Vetty but these modern dude tip the scales at 4200 lbs, so the Muzzie will be faster and better , but still not look as good

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 0:50
by christer
drewcrane wrote:
dave-r wrote:I thought the Fiat Hellcat was supercharged Eddie? That is what I was comparing the GM engine with.

Of course Fiat have still got time to try and squeeze a bit more power out of it. And of course the Challenger is probably about 50% heavier than the Corvette.....



50% HEAVIER ?? FIFTY?? no way ,the Fiat challys are heavy but not that much ,I dont know the current weight of the Vetty but these modern dude tip the scales at 4200 lbs, so the Muzzie will be faster and better , but still not look as good


From a Fiat site:
2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat
BASE PRICE $60,990
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD, 5-pass, 2-door coupe
ENGINE 6.2L/707-hp/650-lb-ft s'charged, OHV 16-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual; 8-speed auto
CURB WEIGHT 4200-4400 lb (mfr est)
WHEELBASE 116.2 in
LENGTH X WIDTH X HEIGHT 197.9 x 75.7 x 55.7 in
0-60 MPH 3.9-4.5 sec (MT est)
EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON Not yet rated
ON SALE IN U.S. Third Quarter 2014

From a Vette site:
The total estimated weight of the Corvette C7 coup without the Z51 package was confirmed this week by Chevrolet to be 3,298 pounds (1,496 kg), that is 90 pounds (41 kg) heavier than the standard 2013 Corvette C6 coupe's curb weight. Weight additions in the Z51 performance package are not yet confirmed, but have been estimated at between 150 and 200 pounds on top of it all.%

All in all I get that the Fiat is less than 33% (roughly) heavier compared to the Vette. (I can not explain where the remaining 17% are. :s005: )

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 9:09
by dave-r
Chevy have been banging on about how much LIGHTER the new Corvette (and in particular the 650hp Z06) is. You telling me it is actually heavier??? :?

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 12:46
by drewcrane
Ahh nice discussion , How much is the new vetty? and man the Hellcat 4400 lbs, and still rip mid 12,s that is one powerful engine :D

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 15:29
by Adrian Worman
On a shitty paved road the extra weight of the Hellcat (see we don't even call it a Chally anymore?!) won't harm it, in fact it'll help get the piwer down over a lighter, peakier car :mrgreen:

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 17:43
by drewcrane
The word Chally ,someone tried to get it banned on a modern chally site,chally chally chally I call it like I want :D

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 18:09
by Adrian Worman
drewcrane wrote:The word Chally ,someone tried to get it banned on a modern chally site,chally chally chally I call it like I want :D


Banned?! Someone did the same thing to a Barracuda and it becomes a legend :shock: :mrgreen:

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2014 18:58
by drewcrane
Adrian Worman wrote:
drewcrane wrote:The word Chally ,someone tried to get it banned on a modern chally site,chally chally chally I call it like I want :D


Banned?! Someone did the same thing to a Barracuda and it becomes a legend :shock: :mrgreen:



Rolf and the Vette too, of course some might get confused with chevette.

I always thought my grandpa had nice vairs.....corvairs :D

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2014 15:46
by christer
drewcrane wrote:and man the Hellcat 4400 lbs, and still rip mid 12,s that is one powerful engine :D


11,s if you ask me. :s007:

(The 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat is the fastest muscle car ever with a National Hot Rod Association-certified ¼-mile elapsed time of 11.2 seconds at 125 miles per hour (mph) with stock Pirelli P275/40ZR20 P Zero tires. With drag radials, the run dropped to just 10.8 seconds at 126 mph!)

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2014 15:51
by christer
If every member of this board would be driving Challengers, then we would not run into discussions like this. :s003:

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2014 20:02
by drewcrane
christer wrote:
drewcrane wrote:and man the Hellcat 4400 lbs, and still rip mid 12,s that is one powerful engine :D


11,s if you ask me. :s007:

(The 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat is the fastest muscle car ever with a National Hot Rod Association-certified ¼-mile elapsed time of 11.2 seconds at 125 miles per hour (mph) with stock Pirelli P275/40ZR20 P Zero tires. With drag radials, the run dropped to just 10.8 seconds at 126 mph!)



Yea you are right ,except they could only get 12.1 up here in the clouds.........LOL ONLY!!!

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 15 Aug 2014 8:09
by christer
drewcrane wrote:
christer wrote:
drewcrane wrote:and man the Hellcat 4400 lbs, and still rip mid 12,s that is one powerful engine :D


11,s if you ask me. :s007:

(The 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat is the fastest muscle car ever with a National Hot Rod Association-certified ¼-mile elapsed time of 11.2 seconds at 125 miles per hour (mph) with stock Pirelli P275/40ZR20 P Zero tires. With drag radials, the run dropped to just 10.8 seconds at 126 mph!)



Yea you are right ,except they could only get 12.1 up here in the clouds.........LOL ONLY!!!


I guess the 11.2 time is with an expert driver during perfect conditions? That is how they use to do it, I guess?

Re: Dodge Unleashes Most Powerful Challenger Ever

PostPosted: 15 Aug 2014 10:52
by dave-r
christer wrote:If every member of this board would be driving Challengers, then we would not run into discussions like this. :s003:



Yeah I agree. There are far to many that have not been driven for years and years. Isn't that right Christer? :wink: :s003: