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				what is on an La fender tag
				
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19 Feb 2011 21:43by spchallenger340
				what I would like to know ? here is what my fender tag reads E55 D32 JH23 HOE 110573 FJ5 H6X9 000 V1X A62 A66 C16 C55 G33 H51 J45 M21 N41 N42 N85 N95 R22 V1X V21 V9X Y14 26 END. What I don't understand is the car still has these other options, J41 J55 M85 J25 J54 with call out emblems 340 Four Barrel wouldn't these codes be on the fender tag too? Also looking for a close build date to my car. Fender tag rusted can't tell what the build date reads A06 -r- A08 -r- ?  One last ? friend of my has car with an A63 code on fender tag and only has vinyl roof no badges no over head console vinyl bucket seats why? His fender tag reads E55 D32 JH23 HOE 109  TX9 H6X9 000 V1X A01 A02 A63 A66 C16 C55 G31 G33 J25 J45 M21 M25 M31 N41 N42 N95 R11 V1X V9W 26 END. See some of his options are on his fender tag that are not on my and some of my are not on his.Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help please!
			 
			
		
			
				HELP DAVE-R- LA FENDER TAGS spchallenger340
				
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19 Feb 2011 22:35by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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20 Feb 2011 4:45by Alaskan_TA
				Do you have photos of both tags? Some of that data is missing & out of order? One code listed is not possible also. Photos would (may?) help us figure out what is what? 
A63 is a molding package, it did come on SE models standard, but it was available on most other 1970 Challengers also. To be a SE the VIN would have 29 in it, not 23.
Not all cars have the same codes & not all of the codes are listed on the fender tags.
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 7:01by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 7:14by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 7:16by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 7:18by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 7:30by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 16:36by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 17:32by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 21:05by dave-r
				I used to know a lot of this stuff off the top of my head but have forgotten it all since my brain injury.
I can't even remember what i used for reference when I needed it? 
 
 I must have the codes listed somewhere. 
 
 All I remember about LA tags is that they are mostly the same as the Hamtramck tags except that you usually got the roof code added twice. Once at the start of line three above the body colour code (tags are read from the bottom line up) and once again on the top line. V1X in this example.
In either case you never got all the broadcast sheet codes on the fender tag. You just got the main options on the tag.
 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 22:32by Alaskan_TA
				Gotta love a clear photo. The A04 shown was typed as A02 was not possible in that position.  
 
 Some codes at 
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dea ... e-01.shtmlMore at 
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dea ... d-04.shtmlNeither one is all inclusive, but they will get you started.
 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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20 Feb 2011 22:37by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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20 Feb 2011 22:46by spchallenger340
				Alaska I'm confuse I've seen lots of cars with the A01 then A04 on the Vin my question is about the A63 code the car has no sign of SE badges any where, doors , over head console or vinyl roof and vinyl seats
			 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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20 Feb 2011 23:17by spchallenger340
				Alaskan TA, thanks for the information, look at the web page.So looking at the option codes then an A63 on the fender tag is on there because of the options M25 and M31 on the fender tag, not because it is an SE Special Edition order. At least that is how I'm reading it. Now that I have someone that could help me land the space shuttle, would a car with an A66  and A62 on the f/tag still list J25 and N85 on the tag.It seems that  cars built in LA wouldn't but car built back east did , THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP 

 
			
		
			
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21 Feb 2011 8:48by dave-r
				As Barry already mentioned, the ONLY thing that makes a car a SE version is "29" rather than "23". Not the option codes which - were optional.
I'm glad your're smart mate because obviously, like you say, I'm not. 

What I am confused about is that you HAVE the tag and you are asking if other codes should be on it.
Well you have the tag......if the codes are not on it that answers your question dosn't it? Or am I missing something again? 
 
 There are lots of examples of tags in this section. It might interest you to have a trawl though them for examples of what you are looking for.
 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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21 Feb 2011 18:04by spchallenger340
				Sorry mate, I didn't mean it in a bad way, come on you were smart enough to own the best car chrysler evey made the 1970 DODGE CHALLENGER . Hell I was smart enough to keep my baby since 71. I do love all mopars ! And if I could go back in time to pick a car out, I'd have a blooming had time to pick between a 1970 CUDA or CHALLENGER. My cousins form England came over to visit took them for a ride, and blime they were Mopar fans,  had some stories to take back to Norwich chers!    

   P.S We do have the same great taste in color HEMI ORANGE 

 
			
		
			
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21 Feb 2011 20:38by dave-r
				No offence taken. I'm just sarcastic. 

 
			
		
			
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21 Feb 2011 20:58by christer
				You got a lovely car there. No question about it.  
 
 I do not mean to be picky or anything, but if the two front spoilers would switch place then you would have them as Mother Mopar once wanted (the straight edge on the outer side of car and the rounded edge pointing to the middle of car). This has been discussed before. I think I am correct because have got a pic to proof it.
 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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21 Feb 2011 21:14by dave-r
				Yes they are the wrong way around but remember the T/As were delivered with the front spoilers in the trunk for the dealer to fit. So sometimes the dealerships got it wrong too. So that makes them "correct" on a original T/A if it can be proved they came that way.
			 
			
		
			
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21 Feb 2011 22:07by spchallenger340
				Chister, I had to get up to look at the chin spoilers on my car, this how they look  I_____/  \______I don't scare me like that !   

 
			
		
			
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21 Feb 2011 22:34by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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21 Feb 2011 23:26by dave-r
				Yes but I am sure they should be \______I I______/. 
But like I said. You see them both ways and sometimes the dealers did them your way.
			 
			
		
			
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22 Feb 2011 1:34by spchallenger340
				So it sound like your right Dave and Christer is confused like my self o' well I wouldn't tell anybody if you don't 

     Your way does look better in the picture  

  It sucks being British, for myself am a perfectionist not a purist but believe me Dave I'll never be liberal 

 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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22 Feb 2011 5:37by spchallenger340
				Another question for you Dave or Alaskan who can take a rusty fender tag and make a dead on repop, that is exactly like the original  that if either one of you had them in your hands you couldn't tell the difference. Please don't tell me it's Galen, he would be the last person on earth that I would use,even if he did it for free! Thanks Dave -r- Alaskan or Chester,if you can tell my chin spoilers have been mounted wrong you sure the hell could tell if the stamps are correct or not 

 
			
		
			
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22 Feb 2011 9:02by dave-r
				I am dead against "reproducing" tags or other important documents to do with the car. It is wide open to abuse and we have seen plenty of fake tags on here over the years. Some of them were even made rusty to look original.
And yes G.G. was your man for doing that. And I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
Your best bet is to treat the rust and preserve the tag to prevent it from getting any worse.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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22 Feb 2011 9:02by dave-r
				What wheel/tyre combo have you got on your car?
			 
			
		
			
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23 Feb 2011 3:32by spchallenger340
				Thanks for observation, S/S cragars have been my favorite seen I put them on in the 70s. My first set were 15 x 7 reverse on the front with 15 x 8 reverse on the back, but a hated the balance problem, because they were un-lug. But two years ago Jegs parts sold me a new set of  17 x 8 fr  17 x 9 re  and they are a direct bolt on, no un -lug ! No more vibrations in the front end, the only thing that upset me was I had to change my left hand studs to right hand because as you would know it they only make right had lug nuts go figure! As for the tires that  took awhile to figure out to get the right size to fit with out rubbing , perfect fit was 255/40 ZR 17 fr and 275/40 ZR 17 re, I ordered a set of 285/40 ZR 17 , they were one mean looking set of tires for the rear but they won't clear the leaf springs wideeeee , And the best price to buy these Good Year tires was Wal-mart  $180.00 EA FR / $209.00 EA RE, LOVE THEM 

 and they don't stick out past the fenders and you would love the way they would corner on those British Coast line roads 

 
			
		
			
				Re: what is on an La fender tag
				
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23 Feb 2011 4:37by spchallenger340
				
			 
			
		
			
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23 Feb 2011 9:53by dave-r
				Yes I think 17-inchers look good on these E-body cars in particular if the car is lowered slightly.
It is when they are bigger than that I think they start to look silly on these cars.