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F19 Fleet code on a 1971 Challenger? Any idea?

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 5:09
by SeekinChallRag
I recently saw a F19 code on the fender tag of a JH23L1B. Any ideas?

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 6:24
by patrick
Do you have any pic's? Is that a 360, four barrel car? I bet, Barry has the answer. :wink:

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 11:39
by Culvers
I think F19 has something to do with the battery or the alternator

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 11:41
by Culvers
patrick wrote:Do you have any pic's? Is that a 360, four barrel car? I bet, Barry has the answer. :wink:

No 360 in '71 Challengers

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 12:02
by dave-r
The "F" codes are usually to do with the battery or alternator. But I don't have a record of that code and I don't recall ever having seen a F code on a Challenger fender tag before.

It is very hard to comment on tag codes without seeing a clear photo of it. They are often miss-read due to rust or bad stamping. Sometimes codes get on fake tags that should never be there at all.

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 17:06
by Alaskan_TA
Got a tag photo?

It could be a factory typo on the tag, a rusty tag hard to read or a fake tag altogether. A photo would help.

Pictures - 2 Tagger!

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2009 23:25
by SeekinChallRag
It is a two tag car. The tags don't look bogus. Rust is not a problem re identification of code - It is clearly F19. It's a highly optioned Special Order (Y39) car which makes me wonder if the code is correct and what it stands for has just been lost to the mists of time! The other possibility is that it is a miss-stamp. The other question I have about this vehicle is it is a sunroof car but is missing the M51 code. Does that make sense? I have run across this phenomenon before - where a 1971 Challenger sunroof car didn't show the sunroof code on the tag. Any thoughts?

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 0:06
by Moparman1972
Don't know about the tag, but could you post some close up shots of the sunroof if you have any?

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 1:33
by SeekinChallRag
Moparman1972 wrote:Don't know about the tag, but could you post some close up shots of the sunroof if you have any?

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 1:41
by Alaskan_TA
The G in the VON is the sunroof code for 1971.

The Y39 is because of the sunroof. The car had to be sent out to ASC in an unfinished condition, ASC then installed the suroof, vinyl top & related interior bits.

Windsor built cars had some F codes whose meaning has been lost to time, at least so far. It is possible an employee who stamped the tags transfered from one plant to the other & made a mistake.

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 1:54
by Moparman1972
Thanks for the pic, sunroof cars have always intrigued me.

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 2:34
by Alaskan_TA
F19 is on the broadcast sheet too, also note the M51 code.

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 3:09
by SeekinChallRag
Wow Alaskan_TA, you know alot!

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 3:20
by Alaskan_TA
Honestly, I know very little.

That is why I read everything I can find on these cars. There are so many unknowns.........

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2009 9:08
by dave-r
So F19 is a heavy duty alternator? Not seen that on a tag before.

Question answered...

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2009 1:06
by SeekinChallRag
I guess my question has been answered. Thanks so much! I just love all this niggly (niggly, adj of niggle - to be preoccupied with details; fuss ) little Mopar code stuff.

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2009 1:17
by Alaskan_TA
Dave, it is in the alternator box, but some Windsor cars have odd numbers in the broadcast sheet boxes that do not relate to what the box says at all. It is odd to see it on a Hamtramck car though.

It is a mystery for now........... at least to me.

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2009 6:21
by patrick
Culvers wrote:
patrick wrote:Do you have any pic's? Is that a 360, four barrel car? I bet, Barry has the answer. :wink:

No 360 in '71 Challengers

Oops. :oops: Been awhile. 383 was the L code, in those years.

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2009 15:51
by nomopar
Alaskan_TA wrote:The G in the VON is the sunroof code for 1971.

The Y39 is because of the sunroof. The car had to be sent out to ASC in an unfinished condition, ASC then installed the suroof, vinyl top & related interior bits.



very low VON G00154
(mayby) built A09

could it be the 154th G-car :?

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2009 3:03
by SeekinChallRag
What's a G-car?

And why are there 154 of them?

nomopar wrote:
Alaskan_TA wrote:The G in the VON is the sunroof code for 1971.

The Y39 is because of the sunroof. The car had to be sent out to ASC in an unfinished condition, ASC then installed the suroof, vinyl top & related interior bits.



very low VON G00154
(mayby) built A09

could it be the 154th G-car :?

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2009 6:17
by SeekinChallRag
Never mind I figured it out all by myself. Sunroof cars.


SeekinChallRag wrote:What's a G-car?

And why are there 154 of them?

nomopar wrote:
Alaskan_TA wrote:The G in the VON is the sunroof code for 1971.

The Y39 is because of the sunroof. The car had to be sent out to ASC in an unfinished condition, ASC then installed the suroof, vinyl top & related interior bits.



very low VON G00154
(mayby) built A09

could it be the 154th G-car :?

Re: F19 Fleet code on a 1971 Challenger? Any idea?

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2014 20:43
by js23tam
while i havnt seen to many sunroof cars , 71 js i owned did not have m51 on tag ,,,but from what i understand the G in the V O N confirmed it did come equipped with a sunroof....now i dont know if that G was on 70 cars , nor do i know if it was the same on A , B ,C bodies....but every 71 tag you will see the G,,,