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Hello- can anybody please explain what these letters and numbers mean. See pics of the inner door decal with weight data. I assume GVWR is Gross Vehicle Weight (R= Rating?) but 4615 pounds seems very heavy. What is this weight composed of, eg does it include passangers, luggage approximations?

The next numbers are of GAWR (front) and GAWR (rear)- these weights added together equal the 4615. What are they measuring here?

I was always under the assumption that the Challengers were around 3900 to 4000 pounds.

Thanks for help

I am guessing they are the max weights allowed for each axle. Rather than what it actually weighed. The sort of thing lorries get checked for.

Gross weight is the car itself with all cargo / people / contents.

So those would be Max gross weights as I thought then?

Yep.

Goldenblack440 wrote:I was always under the assumption that the Challengers were around 3900 to 4000 pounds.

From a book called Dodge Muscle cars, I have got this information:

440-6: 3665 Ib (as tested).
426-8: Hemi: 3890 Ibs (curb weight).
440-4: 3820 Ibs (curb) 4080 Ibs (test)

Hope it helps!

Btw; "Curb weight=Car+Fluids+Driver" Is that correct?

I don't think curb weight includes the driver.

Just for semantics
GAW is Gross Axle Weight (Front, Rear)

Thanks for those replies- i had not yet read Fal308's reply before i realised that GAWF,R were Gross Axles weight. So it must be the maximum allowed. Thanks for vehicle weights Christer, although there is 155 pounds difference between the 4 barrel and the 6 pack, must be differences in options/ Just goes to show how much they can weigh, especially as the 6-pack has two extra carbs. The air con would weigh a heap, so would power steering. But mine is a small block so i assume i can take off another 150-180 pounds, esp with allum intake and water pump etc. Well its a relief they don't weigh over 4000!

Also, should that be Kerb weight?, 'Curb' is a verb and means to slow down or reduce (eg Curb your food intake), whereas 'kerb' means the side of the road. So i would assume they use the word kerb to suggest it is all ready to drive- all fluids etc, just ready for the lucky driver to hop in!!

Goldenblack440 wrote:Also, should that be Kerb weight?, 'Curb' is a verb and means to slow down or reduce (eg Curb your food intake), whereas 'kerb' means the side of the road.

Correct!

Here in the USA curb would be correct. Curb is also the spelling for the ste on the edge of the road. So in American English parlance it can be a verb or a noun.

And yet you guys still call it "English".

I'd call it yankee but I'm from a Southern-leaning state and my wife and her family are from a verrrry southern state, North Carolina

Eddie could call it yankee as he's from a northern state

fal308 wrote:I'd call it yankee but I'm from a Southern-leaning state and my wife and her family are from a verrrry southern state, North Carolina

I bet y'all are very "Gone With The Wind".

Did anyone else notice the license plate on the flatbed?

"IMLUCKY"

Yeah that tow truck driver is a nice guy - that's his second truck. He got those plates when his first truck was virtually cut in two by a semi- totalled, and he walked away with a few cuts! Insurance paid for it luckily. He was lucky alright. I'll need him again soon, as my 71 is going into the welders again for a few small rust repairs, shopping trolley dings and the four Torque boxes welded into place.

fal308 wrote:Here in the USA curb would be correct. Curb is also the spelling for the ste on the edge of the road. So in American English parlance it can be a verb or a noun.

Well, then i stand corrected, i suppose we are both right on our respective sides of the ocean. Although you would be more correct because they are American cars

By the way, funny you mention Gone With the Wind - i have been meaning to get it out -if it has been released on DVD. Don't think there would be too many Mopars in it, unless Chrysler had some distant origins with the carts and carriages!? Then again, their rear suspension doesn't look too different..!