Postby JJ » 12 Feb 2007 21:25

There were never any Challengers sold new in Germany. Thanks for asking Dave. Glad to hear from you.
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Postby bob » 13 Feb 2007 0:45

nomopar wrote:BOB, did you found any body codes in the engine room :?:

matching nr engine and transmission :?:

pw, nice option 8)


Body codes? I'm not sure what you mean!

727 has blank pad, but it match the rest of the cars parts dat,
PK 3410668 L "2901" 4161
I think it's correct trans for the car, it seems to be very early car.
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Postby dave-r » 13 Feb 2007 8:54

bob wrote:Body codes? I'm not sure what you mean!


He means the cowl and the radiator support.

http://challenger.mpoli.fi/forum/viewto ... =4119#4119
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Postby bob » 13 Feb 2007 9:51

dave-r wrote:
bob wrote:Body codes? I'm not sure what you mean!


He means the cowl and the radiator support.

http://challenger.mpoli.fi/forum/viewto ... =4119#4119


Ok!

It's stamped on right innerfender and in trunk (under weatherstrip) on rightside if i remember correct.

Cowl and radiator support is blank!
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Postby fbernard » 13 Feb 2007 12:30

I just checked with my club historians.

This car was indeed assembled in Poissy.

Order number was 536, ordered May 13th, 1969.

This order was cancelled (as were 16 or 18 orders that year, but the car had already been shipped from the US and were delivered nonetheless).

Metallic Grey, black interior.
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Postby nomopar » 13 Feb 2007 23:00

ofcourse the order number is 536 :roll:

its stamped in front of the vin number on the inner fender :D

every day your learning something new :D

BOB , is the engine vin number the right one :?:
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Postby bob » 14 Feb 2007 10:02

fbernard wrote:I just checked with my club historians.

This car was indeed assembled in Poissy.

Order number was 536, ordered May 13th, 1969.

This order was cancelled (as were 16 or 18 orders that year, but the car had already been shipped from the US and were delivered nonetheless).

Metallic Grey, black interior.


Ordered May 13th, 1969, wow! It explains it's lack of woodgrain inserts in doorpanel and many other "goofy" parts/ things.

It's hard to find fact's about those "france made" like a "greyzon".

You don't find anything about the "S" and " Y " in that TYPE "cod" ??

fbernard, thank you very much!
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Postby christer » 14 Feb 2007 10:59

bob wrote:It explains it's lack of woodgrain inserts in doorpanel and many other "goofy" parts/ things.


About the missing woodgrain inserts: It is not very unusual. My car is missing them and I know several other cars who also are missing them. My idea is that many (most of them? all?) early non-R/T cars came without them.
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Postby bob » 14 Feb 2007 11:57

nomopar wrote:ofcourse the order number is 536 :roll:

its stamped in front of the vin number on the inner fender :D

every day your learning something new :D

BOB , is the engine vin number the right one :?:


Yes engine match! " 70392 " is stamped above the oilpump. :thumbsup:

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Postby Alaskan_TA » 15 Feb 2007 5:09

"Ordered May 13th, 1969, wow!"

Not possible. The 1970 model year did not begin until August 1, 1969. :shock:

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Postby dave-r » 15 Feb 2007 9:28

Could they have been orderd before the model came out?

A lot were cancelled. Was this due to the amount of time before delivery?
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Postby fbernard » 15 Feb 2007 11:11

Alaskan_TA wrote:"Ordered May 13th, 1969, wow!"

Not possible. The 1970 model year did not begin until August 1, 1969. :shock:

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Perfectly possible here.

No car was client-ordered, all were ordered by Simca (aka Chrysler-France), probably while the Chrysler management from the US held them at gunpoint (try to imagine selling these cars in non-NATO European countries back then).

If I remember correctly, there were 2 separate order batches for 1970. This order is the second and largest (18 cars i believe), which was cancelled (don't know why), and delivered nonetheless. It is likely that most of these cars were sold new in other countries (Simca probably managed to place some of them where they believed they could be sold).



I imagine the dealer brochures and all were perfectly ready by May...
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Postby bob » 15 Feb 2007 11:34

Alaskan_TA wrote:"Ordered May 13th, 1969, wow!"

Not possible. The 1970 model year did not begin until August 1, 1969. :shock:

Barry


Apossible thought is at this is a "pilotcar" for the french "assambleline"

First it has travling with boat for maybe 4/5 week's, then they shoud paint and assamble a brand new car they never seen befor, it take time.
If the dealer shoud have " the new Challenger "in the showroom in time, they most have very early cars to start with.

I base that on early parts dat from my car.

For an example:

Hoodhinge Dat "1259"

Power steering pump Dat "1189"

Carter 4736s Dat "G9"

"Hoodhook" safety catch handle Dat "1919"

Please! don't kill me now. it's just my 5 cents of worth!
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Postby Alaskan_TA » 16 Feb 2007 4:25

The dealership brochures were typically sent out in late July / early August for the new models.

Does anyone have any paperwork for any of these cars showing a May 1969 order date? If so, I would love to see it.

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