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shift gate manufacture for slapstick

PostPosted: 26 Aug 2009 14:27
by 73challengerguy
anyone tell me the link to the company making the shifting plate for challys with slap stick?....thank you..

PostPosted: 26 Aug 2009 15:18
by dave-r
I found this in the transmission section;
http://challenger.mpoli.fi/forum/viewto ... 2624#42624


and this thread was handy too;
http://challenger.mpoli.fi/forum/viewto ... 3048#43048

PostPosted: 27 Aug 2009 2:53
by burdar
Are you talking about the accual shifting mechanism or the chrome plate that is visable around the woodgrain?

If you want the chrome piece, www.beaparts.com has them as well as new black plastic slides and clear shift indicator lenses.

PostPosted: 27 Aug 2009 3:01
by burdar
Dave, I just skimmed throught the last link that you posted. Is there still a discussion going on about the "slap stick" name on the shift indicator.

What I have read is that early 1970's had NO lettering at the bottom of the lens. Then for some reason they went to a lens that said "shift gate" on it but only for a very short time before changing to the more common "slap stick"

My 73's lens says slap stick on it.

PostPosted: 27 Aug 2009 7:54
by dave-r
My car was built in October 1969. My original shifter is stored away. I will try to remember to dig it out and see what that one is like.

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 9:27
by Jimiboy
If having reverse pattern installed in trans. How do i make the stock slapstick work backwards then? with slapping in the gears?
Is new "gate" necessary then?
Is new aftermarket shifter the best to get or is the slapstick good?

Can you have reverse pattern with automatic valve body, or is it only in fully manual transmissions this work?

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 9:42
by Jimiboy
Just a question after reading the articles from the posted links...
Is damaged sprag obvious or hard to detect? Can you have a crack in the rear of trans without seeing it?
Where is possible oil leaks most likely detected from? I have a leak that is hard to track for me so far. It seems to leak from the rear/ maybe middle of the trans. Not from the front.
(No problems driving)
Service manual tells possible leak "speedometer adaptor"..

another question: When having the backwheels in the "air" , the wheels are spinning even in "N" whats wrong? Have never noticed that the car moves on ground in "N" do....

Thanks

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 10:03
by fbernard
Jimiboy wrote:another question: When having the backwheels in the "air" , the wheels are spinning even in "N" whats wrong? Have never noticed that the car moves on ground in "N" do....

Thanks



About that last problem, I've seen it on a buddy's car recently. I can't even hold the wheel still when it's on the lift. But the car won't move on the ground. I first though there was a problem with the shifter alignment, but there's none.

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 11:54
by Jimiboy
Thanks for posting this quick replie.

Anybody else experienced this?

I tested that (wheels in air while shifting) to see if i could detect the leak when there was pressure, car was running. But did not see anything.

fill in here guys please..

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 18:11
by Jimiboy
Jimiboy wrote:If having reverse pattern installed in trans. How do i make the stock slapstick work backwards then? with slapping in the gears?
Is new "gate" necessary then?
Is new aftermarket shifter the best to get or is the slapstick good?

Can you have reverse pattern with automatic valve body, or is it only in fully manual transmissions this work?


:?: Anybody?

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 19:54
by dave-r
Not sure exactly what you are trying to do or your thinking behind it to be honest.

OK. I will try to answer.

Reverse pattern is not going to work with the stock shifter. Not only will the gear labeling be all wrong but the shifter will not work backwards. Which is no good if Park is where 1st gear used to be and the other way around. You will need to fit a shifter designed for reverse pattern.

The reverse pattern facility is part of a manual valve body modification.

It MAY be possible to have a forward pattern manual valve body but I am not sure? You would have to look that up.

Does that answer your questions? :?

I am not sure if it is the reverse pattern you are after or the manual valve body.

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 20:11
by burdar
Here...they also make a plastic shift indicator with the reverse pattern.

https://www.coperacingtrans.com/product ... cts_id=311

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009 20:23
by dave-r
You beat me to it! I found the answer was there all the time in the link I posted earlier in this thread.

I posted this a while ago but forgot they also did a reverse pattern version.

http://www.duncan-motor-sports.com/2.html

I assumed you had read all of this thread and followed the links already Jimiboy. :s021:

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 8:40
by Jimiboy
Jimiboy wrote:If having reverse pattern installed in trans. How do i make the stock slapstick work backwards then? with slapping in the gears?
Is new "gate" necessary then?
Is new aftermarket shifter the best to get or is the slapstick good?

Can you have reverse pattern with automatic valve body, or is it only in fully manual transmissions this work?


I Blame my bad english, but my question was really if this gate is something i need to make backward pattern such as this to work..
P
R
N
1
2
D
and if the slapstick i have in my console is gonna work with this then? or must i press the button on the shifter each time i shift from 1:d to 2:nd and from 2:nd to 3:rd then? Do i need an aftermarket shifter to make it work?

And by curiosity, does this reverse pattern work only with manuall valve body? Never heard anybody use it with still having fully automatic transmission...

Sorry for asking, maybe a bit stupid questions i do not know really? :blushes:

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 9:17
by dave-r
Jimiboy wrote:If having reverse pattern installed in trans. How do i make the stock slapstick work backwards then?


That is what the parts shown in the links do.

Can you have reverse pattern with automatic valve body, or is it only in fully manual transmissions this work?


Reverse pattern available on a fully manual valve body only.

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 10:12
by Jimiboy
Thanks Dave! =)

With this gate, is it necessary to press button on shifter when shifting down, and just slapping when up shifting then? (as stock, but backwards-slapping backwards... ?)

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 10:19
by dave-r
I believe it will work the same as stock but in the other direction yes.

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 11:14
by Jimiboy
:thumbsup: :D Thanks Dave!