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UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2011 12:37
by cv70chall
Hi everyone,

We finally reassembled the dash and installed the cluster/ wiring harness- and I've come across some wiring I have no idea about. I went over the diagrams listed here and still cannot locate homes for the photos I've attached.
Can anyone shed some light on the locations for these?

1. Twin tan good sized gauge wires with a single black plug?
2. Single black wire with grey plug
3. Large plug connector with 2 Orange leads and 1 pink lead
4. Single yellow wire with female press-plug
5. Single yellow wire with black stripe

There is also a plug on the wiper switch that does not seem to have anything connected to it. I managed to connect the two molex connectors (they seem to fit correctly) but need to know if this lead is left open or if there is a wire missing or that I have plugged into something else incorrectly.
We did put power to the harness and at least the lights and clock are working- with no "magic smoke", which is a good thing!

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2011 15:35
by burdar
The tan wires look like they terminate right by the unused slot in the switch panel. They may have been for cars with rear defrost however it looks like the connector was plugged into something at one time. Could it have plugged into the black wire that's right by it?

I remember a black wire that wasn't connected to anything originally. It may have been used for testing purposes at the factory. That might be what your black wire is if it doesn't connect to the tan wires.

The orange/pink wires went to the radio. The black/green wires went to the speakers so the orange/pink wires must have been for radio power and for the radio light.

The yellow wire looks like it might have the wrong connecter on the end of it. You can see what plug mine has in this picture. Maybe 1970's used your style of plug? That wire on my car is part of the "light group" and connects to a wire comming down out of the steering column. It's for the ignition key light. The female three pronged plug that the wire goes into is for the time delay relay.
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The other yellow wire with the black tracer goes back up into the dash but I'm not possitive what it went to. It may have gone up to the gauge panel lighting....the far left light on the light bar. That's not the wire your holding though...it's the other one. What connector is on the end of the wire you're holding?

I don't remember, do you have the two speed or three speed wipers? The connections are different between the two. I think there was a picture of each style on Moparts. Maybe I'll go look for those pictures.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2011 17:14
by cv70chall
Thanks for the info!
I think I've managed to stumble upon the location for the 2 tan wires- as there is a diagram showing them plugged into that single black wire.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=109
I'll try your suggestions with the yellow ones later this week when we go to install the dash assembly.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2011 21:44
by cv70chall
Here are some "better photos" of those yellow wires I need a home for with the dashboard mounted.
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Help

Thanks!!!

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011 21:21
by Pat
This picture show´s the yello lead cabel that is for the Map Light option or curtesy light in convertibels that dident come whit A01 (Light pkg) that inqluded Map Lamp/Trunk lamp/Switch panel light/Key ignition light/Ashtray light/Glove light ! The Map Light option is a neat option that also has a time delay relay on the cabel harness and when you open the door the lights turn´s on for the igniton key and switch panel light and the (map lamp) if im not mistaking... and when you close the door the time delay relay have power loaded in it for about 15-20 seconds to provide the ignition key and switch panel light so you can put in the key thoe it´s dark in the car =) The yello cabels conector in the pic conects to the key light that is only used this round od conektor in 70 E-Body and i provide a picture of the 2947751 key light that also only is for the 70 E-Body for you to see ! If you need more info just say so :wink: The 71 used a different lamp and conektor that is flat male/female so the map lamp harnesses are also different and they also switcht the coller on the lead wire of the trunklight to brown insted of black that the 70 used but otherways the same in conectors !

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011 21:28
by Pat
If you need a pic of the switch lamp i can post that to and that one is mounted in the dash lamp light bar in the corner over the switch lamp panel and the light go thru a smal hole in that corner of the light bar.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 16:38
by cv70chall
Hey Pat-

Yes, I would VERY MUCH like to see a photo of that set-up! Also what the relay looks like and so forth.
The yellow wires you were talking about- are you talking about the one to the left of the fuse-block (yellow/black), in-front of the fuse-block (yellow) or to the right of the fuse-block? (yellow large).
Can you tell me what each one of them is for?

Thanks for all your help!

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 19:36
by Pat
In your picture i have placed numbers for you and the number 1 is for key light and the number 2 is for the time delay relay partnumber 2889565 that is shown in the other picture i made for you and last the number 3 points at the kabel conektor for the switch panel light partnumber 2947390 that i have also included in the picure i made for you but it is the conektor above the one closest to the arrow but you will figure that out your self as the cabel to the key light aslo runs up to number 3 whit same feed! Whas your car eqipt whit the A01 Option ?

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 20:13
by Pat
Here is a picture of the ralley dash lightbar that has the 2947390 switch panel light mounted by the arrow ! this is the same on 1970-71 E-Body models and in 72 they switch´t to another bulb.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 20:44
by cv70chall
I have the light bar and my car came equipped with the map light below as well if that helps. There is a relay mounted up inside the passenger side of the dash. Which relay is that exactly?

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 20:54
by cv70chall
And do you have a photo of the relay itself? I really appreciate this! I just want to make sure I'm wiring this thing right.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 21:06
by Pat
The time delay relay is in the same picture that i made for you on the switch light assembly just beeside it if you lock at the picture !!!!! Can you show me a picture of the relay you whant me to tell you whats it for on the passenger side of the dash ? Could it be the key buzzer relay that is placed behind the glove box that you are talking about !?

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 21:32
by cv70chall
Yes, that's probably the key relay over there. The flasher relay is the round one I can clearly see but I cannot see what the time delay relay looks like.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 21:35
by cv70chall
Is the time delay relay the one pictured that sits in the fuse block?

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PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 21:47
by Pat
Im sorry but you are not folowing me :? Lets take it from the begining ! The picture in this post shows your picture of the harnesse in your car and i have aded arrows to it whit numbers ! Number 1 is the conektor for the key light. Number 2 is the conektor that you put in the time delay relay in. Number 3 conektor is for the switch light.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 21:51
by Pat
Here is the picture i made for you that shows the switch light harnesse and beside it is the time delay relay that´you are to push in conektor number 2 that is in the post before this one :lol:

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 22:25
by cv70chall
GOTCHA! Thanks! It looks from that plug for the timer relay that it might be a round design- as the plug configuration seems to be the same as with the flasher relay plug configuration.

Re: UNKNOWN WIRING

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011 22:36
by Pat
Yes you are corekt about that the time delay relay is round and if you look closely to the last pictuer that i posted for you in my reply before this one you can see the relay beside the switch light harnesse ! This link will get you to one NOS on ebay for about $38 from Brads NOS Parts if you are missing it ! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Mopar-1968- ... 3f11aaa3e4