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Measuring the exhaust temperature - Why?

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 19:09
by christer
I have never seen an exhaust temperature gauge before! What is good for? is it a dragracing gauge?

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 19:37
by dave-r
Tells you how rich or lean you are going.

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 19:50
by Jon
How do you know the basis to start from?

PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008 14:47
by fal308
You know the baseline as fuel burns at a set temp. So putting an exhaust temp gauge will allow you to read the exhaust temps. Hotter temp equals leaner condition and vice versa. The gauge has a sensor that is mounted in the exhaust. If you have a turbo or cats, you mount the sensor ahead of them.
The exception is a rotary engine. My RX-7 runs around a 1200 degree F temp as opposed to approximately 600 degree F temp on a reciprocating assembly. (When my 7 was running, I wouldn't park on dry grass just for that reason).

PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008 14:49
by fal308
Maybe Eddie will chime in as he's dealing quite a bit with this right now with his MegaSquirt setup :lol:

PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008 15:07
by dave-r
If you monitor exhaust temp from each cylinder you can tell if one is richer or leaner than another or if one is not firing.

PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008 15:43
by Eddie
Around 1200-1400 degrees F. The hotter the better, up to the point that alluminum almost starts to melt! The back it down :lol: Seriously, it all depends on engine design, alloy used in the block&heads, air charge temp,compression ratio, cooling capacity, exhaust, chamber design, camshaft timing, ect.. But the hotter the combustion process the better as far as power production. The thing you have to remember is rich conditions will lower temps and lean will increase it to the point of meltdown, the 'fine line' is tricky! During pre-ignition&detonation those temps can reach 6500 degrees F. momentarily. Thats why ignition timing is very important, only use mechanical/vacum advance to the point where the engine stops making power or trap speed. No more, over advancing on the long run causes more harm then good.

PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008 15:50
by Eddie
dave-r wrote:If you monitor exhaust temp from each cylinder you can tell if one is richer or leaner than another or if one is not firing.
Good point Dave. Which is why I am going to use a thermocouple strap and a pyrometer on the exhaust tube. From my experience,(we tested a small block Chevy), those temps will be varied by a few hundred degrees either way if a carb is used. If Fuel injected those temp variations are much less pronounced. Fuel distribution is not as good with a carburetor as port fuel injection. Therefore, all the combustion chambers will have a different temp reading, thats why the sparkplugs in an injected car pretty much look all the "same" In a carbed car some plugs are darker/lighter than the others, this is normal up to a point.