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Overcentre spring location

PostPosted: 28 Aug 2010 11:48
by Adrian Worman
Any idea how the overcentre spring on the clutch pedal is attatched? My pedal and linkeage came from an earlier car, possibly an A body, I can easy fab a bracket, but all the exploded diagrams I see don't help me much :? Any body able to take a photo :?:
Cheers, Adrian

PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010 16:45
by Adrian Worman
Managed to find this diagram in a Koller Dodge parts cat from 1991 and the page says its a reprint from Sept 1970 factory parts manual, it shows the o/c spring but not the precise attatchment location, however I don't have that pin pt.no 6-35-15 and I'm certain the spring locates onto it, am I right :?: please help, my leg hurts :lol:

PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010 17:45
by dave-r
I would have said that pin is what the pedal is rotating on? :?

Even though I helped someone fit a 4-speed once I can't remember anything about how we fixed the clutch pedal up. It was a bit of a bodge job anyway. We didn't have all the bits and the pedal assembly twisted when you used it. :lol:

PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010 17:50
by dave-r
I assume it is spring 6-35-1 that you are talking about?

One end must locate on the pedal somewhere and the other end somewhere at the back of the assembly on the bulkhead?

We need someone with a 4-speed like Eddie to help us out here don't we. :D

PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010 18:08
by Adrian Worman
Yep thats it,6-35-1, I assime the long arm of the spring attatches to the hook or the hole in the pedal just above the clutch pushrod :?: the shaft you can just see the tip of, at the bottom l.h of the page is the pedal pivot shaft.

PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010 20:04
by dave-r
Oh in that case the pin can only be for the far end of the spring. Is that a groove cut into it to secure the spring end?

Maybe a bolt with a couple of nuts in the middle would do the same thing?

PostPosted: 30 Aug 2010 21:09
by Adrian Worman
I'm sure I could do it, just like to see a pic or drawing to try and get the ratio right 1st time :thumbsup:

PostPosted: 31 Aug 2010 14:00
by Eddie
Here's a pic of my 4 Speed pedal setup. But I dont have the large OS spring because I use a Dual Disc Diaphragm Clutch,(Mcleod Street Twin), this doesnt use the large OS spring. I do think you are correct though Adrian, the spring attaches to the bracket and the other end to the pedal pivot.

PostPosted: 31 Aug 2010 14:02
by Eddie
Hope this helps, if not I can more pics :thumbsup:

PostPosted: 31 Aug 2010 18:41
by Adrian Worman
Great pics mate, a big help, I can work out the pin location from that and try different parts of the pedal hook or hole to attatch the spring to :thumbsup: Is the diaphragm cover really that much lighter?

PostPosted: 01 Sep 2010 13:44
by Eddie
Adrian Worman wrote:Great pics mate, a big help, I can work out the pin location from that and try different parts of the pedal hook or hole to attatch the spring to :thumbsup: Is the diaphragm cover really that much lighter?
Are you asking about the Pedal pressure of a Diaphragm versus a Borg&Beck or Finger style clutch? I really like my McCleod Street Twin,,it doesnt require a lot of leg effort compared to some of the older stuff I used to drive. It's not cheap however, and for a 'driver' may be overkill.

PostPosted: 01 Sep 2010 13:45
by dave-r
Clutch felt nice on your car Eddie. :thumbsup:

PostPosted: 01 Sep 2010 15:17
by Adrian Worman
I've always used Borg+Beck style covers, don't know why, just habit I guess, but I think I may change, even some relatively cheap stuff like Centerforce is probably well capable of taking big torque (and a bit of stupidity :roll: ) the pedal pressure becomes a pain in stop/start traffic

PostPosted: 01 Sep 2010 17:04
by Eddie
Thanks Dave. I think a CenterForce would be very nice in your setup Adrian. The StreetTwin with a SFI Flywheel is gonna be a $1,000-1200 give or take, maybe more since it's been a while since I bought mine. :roll: The CF would be a great choice and probably much lower in cost and you really dont need a Billet SFI flywheel for a street 'rocket' just make sure you'rs isnt cracked or heat scored and have it precision ground and check to make sure the runout in the bellhousing pilot hole isnt too bad! Burn rubber :lol: :thumbsup:

PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010 5:40
by patrick
dave-r wrote:Clutch felt nice on your car Eddie. :thumbsup:


:thumbsup:
I thought so too, Eddie! Even though, Dave and I are auto guys. LOL! :lol: :s024: :biggrin: