cable for kick down linkage • The Dodge Challenger Message Board

by **MLMFLCN** » 31 Dec 2007 21:35

Anybody have any experience with replacing the kickdown linkage with the mopar type cable? Thanks,

- rich

by **dave-r** » 01 Jan 2008 1:23

Use the lockear system of whatever it is called.

Hang on. I just came in from the pub. Al;l the best. wheres me drink?

by **MLMFLCN** » 01 Jan 2008 3:27

NICE

It's not quite midnight here!!!

Happy New Year Dave, sounds like the emphasis is on the HAPPY.

by **dave-r** » 01 Jan 2008 10:41

It was 25mins past 1am here when I wrote that. Feeling a bit rough today. Suffering a little from "brown ale bottom". :oops:

Anyway. It is spelt Lokar. Nice bit of kit.

http://www.rodandcustommagazine.com/tec ... to_05.html

by **drewcrane** » 01 Jan 2008 13:31

hold on i have some pix ill show you later i am currently having issues with the lokar system ill show pix later today,no im not drunk :s008:

, i have had some problems ill show you.............stay tuned!

by **Eddie** » 01 Jan 2008 15:45

I'm pretty sure the kickdown controls line pressure within the transmission's valve body circuit, whatever style you choose the MoPar style or the nice Lokar setup it must be adjusted properly or the tranny will burn it's clutch packs and expire. Re-pops are available at www.manciniracing.com I have a Lokar throttle cable on my truck and it had to be cut to fit.

by **drewcrane** » 01 Jan 2008 23:58

ok my set up has a bracket that mounts to the carb stud , it finally worked loose , and eventually pulled the stud, there is a set screw on the bracket , but it still moves, i dont like putting that much force on a carb stud in aluminum manifold,a carb needs about 15 lbs of torque, and this bracket requires more than that, i have found a much better bracket and i will provide photos in the coming days , it is too cold out side now 20 degrees f, but i think i have a fix , im not sold on lokar for everything , likt there flexible trans dipstick, it rubs against the casing when i pull it out making for an inaccurate reading, so i put the stock back on ,but i will fix this an d show photos cause i like the cables a little better that the linkage :rage:

by **MLMFLCN** » 02 Jan 2008 12:09

Thanks Drewcrane, I look forward to seeing the pictures.

You must be up north like me, its 20 this morning here too.

Have a good one.

- rich

by **MLMFLCN** » 02 Jan 2008 12:10

Hey Eddie,

I'll have to post something out here once I settle up on a cable, sounds like the set up is key. Thanks for the response.

- rich

by **Eddie** » 02 Jan 2008 13:41

Rich just to let you know, www.manciniracing.com Part#3350 for the KD Part# 3395 for the bracket that fits both accelerator cable and KD cable on one bracket.Or www.aandatrans.com sells the KD linkage as an exact re-pop of the original part but it's pricey around 250.00-275.00 but they are exact reproductions even having the correct finish and style. Keep us posted, BTW, it too is 18 Degrees F. outside. Too cold for me. :sleepy:

I dont drink so I have to rely on the body of a large woman to keep my fraile skinny bones warm and flat!

by **drewcrane** » 03 Jan 2008 1:18

ok this is what i have so far 1 st pic is the old bracket i have modified but wont use , cause i dont like using one stud for the bracket, 2nd pic is new bracket, using 2 studs, but now my cables are too short and i have ordered new ones , by friday i will have them and will show new assembled pics, also i had to midifiy the mounting bracket for the cables , cause the holes are for gm , i cant find mopar fittings any ideas dave?, this will work once i get the parts, but man its hard to find custom after market stuff sometimes,.. but this is kinda popular and i feel the cheap bracket from lokar sucks big time and of course i called them and they said they havent had any problems! :rage:

i also plan on bolting the carb down 1st and then using another nut bolt the bracket down i dont know yet any advice is welcome!

by **dave-r** » 03 Jan 2008 8:53

I have never tried to fit one of these myself but here is a lokar kickdown my mate installed himself on his 318 Barracuda.

This Bouchillon link shows the various linkage setups including sixpack carbs, may be of help.

http://www.bouchillonperformance.com/BP ... onsNEW.asp

by **drewcrane** » 03 Jan 2008 14:22

thanks dave i knew someone out there would know of another way to do something, that is a nice set up , and could be modified to work also, ill see what happens with my part tomorrow! :thumbsup:

by **MLMFLCN** » 04 Jan 2008 23:45

Thanks Dave, those photos will be a huge help.

- rich

by **MLMFLCN** » 04 Jan 2008 23:59

Hey Dave,

In looking at the photos, does the cable loop around and connect to the transmission from the "back side" of the tranny? From your photos, and the web site you provided, it looks like this is the case.

This is different from the stock 3 piece set-up, right?

These kits do not include the piece that connects to the transmission and acts as the lever? I am still needing to find one.

Thanks again Dave for your help on this.

- rich

by **MLMFLCN** » 05 Jan 2008 0:00

Drew,

That link Dave provided had your demon carb set up too.

- rich

by **dave-r** » 05 Jan 2008 11:24

MLMFLCN wrote:Hey Dave,

In looking at the photos, does the cable loop around and connect to the transmission from the "back side" of the tranny?

You have to read the text as well as look at the photos. :wink:

Step 3. Route CABLE onto top of main transmission case, by looping towards passenger side and following centerline of transmission case. Feed loose end of CABLE between back of engine and firewall, making CABLE (CARB. END) accessible from top of engine.

by **dave-r** » 05 Jan 2008 11:26

MLMFLCN wrote:This is different from the stock 3 piece set-up, right?

Very different. The lever on the trans is pulled back rather than pushed.

These kits do not include the piece that connects to the transmission and acts as the lever?

No idea. As I said, I have never done one!

by **MLMFLCN** » 05 Jan 2008 12:14

Cool. I got through school only looking at the pictures :wink:

Thanks again Dave.

by **drewcrane** » 05 Jan 2008 17:30

1 st mock up , looks like this set up will work , with a little tinkering it will be custom , , stay tuned.............

by **drewcrane** » 05 Jan 2008 17:57

MLMFLCN wrote:Drew,

That link Dave provided had your demon carb set up too.

- rich

rich ,the cable does go around and comes in from behind , it kinda loops around , hope this helps cause i was a little confused too!

by **dave-r** » 05 Jan 2008 17:58

drewcrane wrote:but the system dave has

I haven't got one! Never installed one! :roll:

by **drewcrane** » 05 Jan 2008 18:05

by **drewcrane** » 05 Jan 2008 21:18

this is the final assembly, haven driven yet but will keep posting :thumbsup:

by **christer** » 05 Jan 2008 22:20

drewcrane wrote:but will keep posting

by **MLMFLCN** » 05 Jan 2008 23:02

Drew,

Looks really sharp :thumbsup:

What size carb is that?

by **drewcrane** » 06 Jan 2008 0:02

750 cfm, i did start it , works great so far , its dark , and the roads are still kinda crapppy for a test drive but so it works well,thanks :thumbsup:

by **Eddie** » 06 Jan 2008 1:49

Glad to hear it Drew, be careful, hope Rich gets his figured out. Next week we are in for a string of 60 degree F. weather. My right hand is itching for that Pistol Grip! :thumbsup:

by **dave-r** » 06 Jan 2008 11:42

drewcrane wrote:750 cfm,

If it is a Demon or anything similar it will actually flow the same as a stock 850 Holley. Barry Grant etc only call them 750s because they use the same diameter throttle blades as the Holley 750 but they actually flow much better.

by **drewcrane** » 06 Jan 2008 13:10

yes the demon carb is a much better carb than an old holly, for alot of reasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!