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just wondering dave do you know the legal story behind barry grant,with holly ?

I don't! I expect it would be interesting though.

well as far as i know , barry g. ended up in litigation with holly, cause he took there carb and simply made it better, and resold it under his name, holly didn t like that, but they had no idea what was to come of this, because the judge sided with barry g. and saw that holly had no patent numbers on there parts , only on the carb it self, not on parts like power valves, jets, floats,etc, so barry g. won,and in turn im not certain but there was such a turn around that barry g . would have been able to counter with his own patents that holly was now using, so i dont know the whole case , but the simple things , like a billit aluminum base,no warpage, nice allen screws for the float bowls , in place of the crappy phillips head screws that always stripped out , ya know holly's were a pain in the butt , and barry g. fixed them, it even comes with a video to help install and tune! they are nice carbs and easy for me to work on but thats is the story

Cool story Drew, didnt know that!

I struggled to tune the Demon carbs until i found out they need a huge amount of initial advance.
The also need stripping down and inspected carefully before using. I don't know anyone that has not found swarf in one. You need to check for warped parts too. But once checked, cleaned and re-assembled they are good carbs for big cammed engines.

i pulled it out of the box, jettet it for altitude with , smaller power valve and never touched it un til now so i must have had a good one out of pure luck,i did remeve the choke too!

Is this thread still aboat LOKAR wire installation??

This is how I ended up doing it...
I extended the LOKAR using parts from a bicycle....and it does a 180 before connecting to the link-arm "inside" the return springs.
This in an effort to reduce future wear in the pivot axle on the throttle body.
The CD now partly acts as a return spring,......so my accelerator does not feel too heavy.........
It's all covered by the shaker bubble, so I did'nt spend more time making it look better.....

it looks good to me , how does it work? if it doesnt bind, well it should be good , however you are not using the lokar transmission cable end proberly, it look like you are using it as a guide and it is only plastic., sooner or later it will wear , it should be on the where it hooks on the carb kickdown lever,maybe a steel tube as a guide? if it works for now do it , but it might need some tinkering

Hi
The 180 loop close to the carb/throttlebody works flawlessly......
I was surpriced myself, how well it works, and how little friction there was.....hence my comment regarding the returnsprings......I put the springs there there because regulations requires it,...not because they are needed.

...I understand that the CDown will assist in returning the throttle nomatter the setup,.....but the fact that my CDwire consists of two wires in series,...enables the CDwire to go really slack when at idle...
The CDwire kind of "hangs down" where there are no wirecover....
My initial idea was to use pulleys,....but I found that this 180 wire loop principle is used alot on bikes....

This is modified from the original LOKAR installation in my car.

If I was to install LOKAR for the first time,....and the cable had sufficient length,...
I would go 180 without the use of bicycle parts shown on the photo.
Perhaps the LOKAR wire would be rigid enough,...so that the gas-hose i put outside the bicycle-wire is not needed either.....

The LOKAR wire end appears to act as a guide,...but is not...
I forgot to remove it,...so instead of having it hanging loose.......[/b]

i see what you mean the whole thing looks cool,yea the lokar piece looks like it just sits there, have you ran the car yet?

need a huge amount of initial advance. , since i am running a mile above sea level i can run more advance, and yes i have a pretty big cam

Most demons with a big cam need about 18 degrees or more initial just to idle right.

johannes wrote:Is this thread still aboat LOKAR wire installation??

Hello Johannes. Long time no see.

Nice Hemi. Is that an old style 426 with the fuel injection? I take it that is a Cuda it is in?

Whatever happened to that old '71 Chally convertible?

dave-r wrote:Hello Johannes. Long time no see.

Nice Hemi. Is that an old style 426 with the fuel injection? I take it that is a Cuda it is in?

Whatever happened to that old '71 Chally convertible?

Hi Dave.
Guess I just have to get used to all the chatting inbetween the technical discussions....
Yeah, it's been a while.....
The engine is a converted 440 (Stage V hemi conversion heads), and it's in the Cuda-clone....
As for the Chally,..I sold it,....then bougth it back last summer... My wife missed it....

Question back to you Dave,.... I found you discussing the GearVendor with some bloke from New Zealand ??
This was on another discussion board...
This bloke had purchased a kit that supposedly should assist splitting the gears...... The thread ended without him solving the problem rigth ??
Any updates ??

I don't think he ever got it to work. I could never work out what he was expecting but what I think he wanted was 6 fast fully automatic close ratio shifts so his car would "sound like a Pro-Stocker" every time he drove up the street.

For a start GV should never have promised such a thing to start with unless they were sure they had a fool proof system that could be used on old muscle cars. The other problem was I think he and his mechanic didn't install it as per instructions because they thought they could improve on the supplied kit.

He ended up very angry about it all and spat his dummy out.