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A 833 into a automatic 440 crank

PostPosted: 09 Jan 2006 6:10
by fordguy
My bro-inlaw has a 68 dart that a newly rebuilt 440 with a A 833 4spd will mate up with. problem is that the 440 crank is a automatic. no provision for the pilot bushing. we need to know the depth that the crank needs to be drilled and diameter. please help us thx.

PostPosted: 09 Jan 2006 9:58
by dave-r
The crank may not be drilled for a pilot bushing but there is usually an un-machined cast hole where it would go. You don't have to drill this. There is a special pilot bushing designed to fit right in the automatic crank. I think you need to shorten the trans input shaft a little though. I think MP do the busing and instructions?

I might have more information on it somewhere.

PostPosted: 09 Jan 2006 16:34
by fordguy
whats MP? if you do have more info please let me know.

PostPosted: 09 Jan 2006 19:26
by Christer
The middle section of the first scan (See: http://challenger.mpoli.fi/forum/viewto ... 3122#13122 ) will give some information about this.

PostPosted: 09 Jan 2006 21:57
by dave-r
fordguy wrote:whats MP? if you do have more info please let me know.


MP = Mopar Performance. :wink: Sorry. You have to learn to speak mopar. :lol:

I looked but cannot find the information I thought I had. It must still be in one of the magazines I have stashed away someplace.

A833 in to 440 crank

PostPosted: 10 Jan 2006 17:34
by transman
My question is what will now support the input shaft of the transmission.
Think about this.
With nothing in the crank, the input shaft is now supported by only the input bearing, not the best idea in the world.
Take the crank to a GOOD engine rebuilder and have a bushing made to to fit the crank and the transmission input shaft, or get the proper crank to do the job.
Do it RIGHT ONCE, or do it WRONG MANY TIMES.
transman 8)

PostPosted: 10 Jan 2006 23:18
by dave-r
We are not saying don't use a bushing! We are saying there is a bushing made just for this conversion that needs no machining of the crank. I think you just gring a small amount off the end of the input shaft because the bearing does not go as far in.